ESC meeting minutes: 2025-07-31

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jul 31 15:07:53 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Cloph, Michael W, Olivier, Caolan, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Stephan, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
   + QA stats: bibisect duplication removal from the script (Xisco)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 25.8.0 rc3 next week
     + meant to be the final rc
   + 25.2.6 rc1 in 2 weeks

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + No news
     + Guides
        + Preparing next editions for 26.2
          + Skip 25.8

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         216(216) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     2(-1)    16(0)      51(-1)    271(-1)
          commented     4(-1)    37(-19)   213(-9)    866(-19)
           resolved     0(-1)    10(-2)     29(0)     148(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 23 changes in 1 month, and 387 changes in 1 year
           Pierre made 9 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 6 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 6 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year
           Adalbert Hanßen made 5 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 4 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
           vijaya chandra made 3 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 2 changes in 1 month, and 243 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 2 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year
           lol made 2 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         221(221) (topicUI) bugs open, 22(22) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      6(3)     17(6)     17(4)      23(6)
          commented     44(-3)   143(39)   197(27)    919(17)
            removed      0(0)      0(0)      2(0)       6(0)
           resolved      3(2)      7(0)     24(2)     153(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 46 changes in 1 month, and 309 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 37 changes in 1 month, and 164 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 29 changes in 1 month, and 195 changes in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 23 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 23 changes in 1 month, and 39 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 18 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 14 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 13 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
           wodsfort made 10 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           Rosalio Morales made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 167683] check documents for used fonts and list them at the top of
            the font selector drop down menu
     + [Bug 167686] Prefer a radio button pair over drop-down listboxes for
            2-option font features
     + [Bug 167674] Excessive number of rows and columns
     + [Bug 167658] The dialog of Borders seems to be different from that intended
  -> + [Bug 167685] Horizontal scrollbar: use the bar for showing the 'used' range,
            and the arrows to expand the sheet
  -> + [Bug 167647] [RFE] Find & Replace dialog: Add tabs and make it default
       + Sahil's proposal
     + [Bug 167586] Single page/blank document in Writer is displayed too high
            on a vertical (portrait) screen
     + [Bug 167635] In Chart, there is no Rotation item in Sidebar Properties
     + [Bug 167618] Missing support for non-oriented (non-"right"-nor-"left") pages
     + [Bug 167567] UI: Underlined letter in Arabic labels drawn as disconnected form
  -> + [Bug 167580] Writer table formulas: hide "phd"
       + weird feature, don't remove it, but hide it from the UI
     + [Bug 167491] FEATURE REQUEST : add alphabetization of sections by headers
     + [Bug 166053] When the font format of a cell is bold, the corresponding
            parentheses in the formula cannot be identified
     + [Bug 167312] The txt file in the "/readmes/" folder contains a URL that has
            no link destination
     + [Bug 167490] PDF export: extend PDFViewSelection parameter with value to
            remove external links
     + [Bug 167484] When no text is selected, font controls should reflect the
            chosen keyboard layout
     + [Bug 167476] The button selection for the border presets are 'invisible'
            in Dark-Mode
     + [Bug 167464] The default bullets have changed between version 24 and
            version 25.2.


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 129(-5) import failure, 26(-2) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 843 coverity issues
      - coverity version is EOL, so forced to bump
      - 2024-12-1 fails to build, so using 2024-6-1
     + ossfuzz issues
      - 4 timeouts
      - but build is broken
      - fix pushed

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 25.2.3.2    21929(+218)
     + 25.2.4.3    57393(+8496)
     + 25.2.5.2    2560(+1819)
     + 25.8.0.1    195(+65)

* mentoring/easyhack update (Ilmari)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      81(12)     173(17)     175(18)      175(18)
                reviews     352(64)    1360(30)    2750(-40)   11196(-10)
                 merged     327(118)   1210(-31)   3174(57)    12648(67)
              abandoned       8(-1)      64(-4)     150(-6)      645(-18)
            own commits     227(65)     816(-25)   2354(28)     9704(35)
         review commits      30(9)      127(-10)    455(-9)     2593(-17)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      36(-7)     113(-1)     117(3)       117(3)
                reviews     888(206)   3162(-82)   7654(56)    31486(-36)
                 merged      17(2)       70(4)      297(-30)    2367(-26)
              abandoned       1(-2)      49(1)      837(-32)    1531(-21)
            own commits      12(-4)      66(3)      174(-14)    1103(-6)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 345(345)
        total 411(411)   assigned 47(47)   open 324(324)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Ujjawal Kumar made 8 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 4 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Hubert Figuière made 3 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Simon Chenery made 3 patches in 1 month, and 66 patches in 1 year
           Marc Mondesir made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Parth Raiyani made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Paul McQuade made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 2 patches in 1 month, and 241 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Vajna, Miklos made 184 review comments in 1 month, and 1268 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 582 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 884 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 748 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 520 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 1146 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 448 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 772 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 286 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Neil Fachin

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/László)
   + resting since: 11 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 174 ok: 170 ko:   3 fail ratio: 1.72% mean_ok:  12 ( 25) median_ok:  10 ( 20)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 171 ok: 165 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.34% mean_ok:  12 ( 25) median_ok:  11 ( 19)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 174 ok: 167 ko:   6 fail ratio: 3.45% mean_ok:  13 ( 25) median_ok:  11 ( 19)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 171 ok: 166 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.17% mean_ok:  13 ( 25) median_ok:  11 ( 19)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 361 ok: 287 ko:  69 fail ratio: 19.11% mean_ok:  48 ( 58) median_ok:  48 ( 54)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 388 ok: 353 ko:  30 fail ratio: 7.73% mean_ok:  25 ( 32) median_ok:  19 ( 26)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 400 ok: 327 ko:  68 fail ratio: 17.00% mean_ok:  57 ( 59) median_ok:  50 ( 51)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 391 ok: 281 ko:  99 fail ratio: 25.32% mean_ok:  47 (103) median_ok:  37 ( 58)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 447 ok: 246 ko: 169 fail ratio: 37.81% mean_ok: 141 (142) median_ok: 107 (107)
gerrit_master              jobs:  56 ok:  27 ko:  28 fail ratio: 50.00% mean_ok: 107 (107) median_ok:  69 ( 69)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 389 ok: 219 ko: 141 fail ratio: 36.25% mean_ok: 144 (145) median_ok: 113 (114)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 JunitTest_svx_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 CppunitTest_xmloff_style                gerrit_windows
      12 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
      24 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + nothing too unusual wrt random test failures (Cloph)
   + had a Windows problem that doubled the build time -> Noel fixed it
   + lost Windows builders today -> hypervisor needs fixing
   + backup quickly failed all the pending builds -> re-queued already
   + one Linux builder is moved to almalinux9
     + plan: move the rest over, too
   + Windows build covers 32bit currently
     + proposal: Windows 64bit to be covered for pre-submit CI
     + and keep a tinderbox for 32bit
     => no objections (all)
     + then the Windows baseline update, pending paperwork

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + further a11y code refactoring
       (use OAccessible directly instead of XAccessible in some places)
     + plan to look into adding support for AT-SPI Collection to Qt (and maybe GTK 4),
       required for Orca browse mode support
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#117636 Multi-page block of Chinese glyphs slows down file navigation
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117636
       + Working on landing fix
   + ODF-TC (Olivier + Regina)
     + weekly meeting -> tables in ODF, familiarizing with the topic (Olivier)
   + Split alpha removal progress (Noel)
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/173937

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1859 (+30)
         + enhancements: 502  (+6)
         + needsUXEval: 14 (+5)
         + haveBackTrace: 15 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 48 (+0)
         + documentation:  4 (+2)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  6 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:

     + New high severity bugs of the week:

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +88  +32 (-52) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Mike Kaganski           9
        nobu                    6
        Buovjaga                4
        V Stuart Foote          3
        Balázs Varga (allotropia) 2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Noel Grandin            2
        Regina Henschel         2
        Timur                   2
        m_a_riosv               2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 7
        Mike Kaganski           6
        Justin L                4
        vic                     4
        Gerald Pfeifer          3
        Michael Weghorn         3
        Telesto                 3
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        László Németh           2
        david                   2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kaganski, Mike          6
        Balazs Varga            2
        Grandin, Noel           2
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Aron Budea              1
        Caolán McNamara         1
        Eyal Rozenberg          1
        Jonathan Clark          1
        Justin Luth             1
        Michael Stahl           1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               5
        yosi3260+libre at gmail.com 5
        nobu                    4
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Raal                    3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Aron Budea              2
        Németh, László          2
        Telesto                 2
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         7
         jussuom                2
         Kelemen, Gabor         2
         Aron Budea             1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         7
         jussuom                2
         Kelemen, Gabor         2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Raal                   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1274(+11) bugs open of 14214(+21) total 21(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         2
         nobu                   2
         Aron Budea             1
         Bogdan B               1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Németh, László         1
         Raal                   1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)
      filters and storage - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 420(+0)
      Calc                     - 248(+1)
      Impress                  - 129(+2)
      LibreOffice              - 60(+0)
      Draw                     - 47(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 44(+0)
      UI                       - 40(+2)
      Borders                  - 38(+0)
      Base                     - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(-1)
      filters and storage      - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 21(-2)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 9(+0)
      Linguistic               - 3(+1)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 1(+0)


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