ESC meeting minutes: 2025-03-06

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Mar 6 15:29:30 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Caolan, Cloph, Olivier, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Regina, Stephan, Miklos, Michael S, Xisco

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
   + bump the clang in LODE to version 18 (Hossein)
     + in progress
       Bump linux_clang_dbgutil_64 to clang 18.1.8
       https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/182317
     + core.git has some new warnings with the new clang (Cloph)
   + print preview is dark on macOS, file issue for Heiko (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.6 rc1 this week, tagged already
   + 25.2.2 rc1 is also this week, to be tagged later today
     + expect to have rc2

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
       + Precisions on appearance feature (S. Horacek)
       + Data provider help page under work (ohallot)
     + Guides
        + Introduced new process to track community work using Deck app
        in Nextcloud (Dione Maddern).
        +
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         219(219) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     3(0)     15(0)     124(-1)    316(-2)
          commented     6(6)     30(1)     135(-1)    931(-7)
           resolved     1(-2)     9(-1)     32(0)     184(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 26 changes in 1 month, and 380 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 168 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 7 changes in 1 month, and 248 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 86 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Robert Großkopf made 4 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 3 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 1 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Alex Thurgood made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         229(229) (topicUI) bugs open, 17(17) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      3(-2)     9(-3)     10(-4)      19(-4)
          commented     37(-5)   114(-19)   263(-10)   1384(-30)
            removed      0(0)      0(0)       1(0)       12(0)
           resolved      7(5)     13(4)      42(5)      219(3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 52 changes in 1 month, and 699 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 42 changes in 1 month, and 414 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 40 changes in 1 month, and 215 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 187 changes in 1 year
           Jan Lachnitt made 18 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 9 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
           wodsfort made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 7 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 7 changes in 1 month, and 40 changes in 1 year
           Balazs Varga made 6 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 165604] Hard to see line color in columns section settings
     + [Bug 165598] Can't define an unordered list with no bullets
     + [Bug 145029] UI: Add-animation requires adding before choosing the effect
  -> + [Bug 162055] Placing the text cursor with the mouse in BASIC IDE should behave
            in the same way as in Writer
       + not seeing it as controversial, probably doable somewhere in vcl (Miklos)
     + [Bug 165539] Change an item highlighting in the document when you place a
            mouse cursor over the item name in Navigator
  -> + [Bug 165534] Option to disable CSD dialogs in gtk4 backend
       + Gentoo drops gtk3 support
       + input from Michael W would be nice
       + gtk4 is blocked by lacking a11y on their side (Ilmari)
       + there doesn't seem to be CSD vs not CSD (Caolan)
         + the gtk4 port is stalled at the moment
         + spending time on this would be more interesting than CSD
     + [Bug 165519] Add "To top" and "To bottom" placement buttons when using to
            the Customize dialog for menu or toollbar
     + [Bug 165517] macOS: rename LibreOffice Preferences to Settings
  -> + [Bug 165516] Impress should have 'Repeat' on the Edit menu by default
            (like Writer)
       + https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2025-March/thread.html#93060

  -> + Make LO's Start Center thumbnail views available for use from within components
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77590
       + https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2025-March/093072.html

* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 161(-41) import failure, 30(+0) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
       - drop from https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/182069 was offset
         by some new entries, one likely fixed since
     + 2 coverity issues
     + 3 ossfuzz issues
       - 1 crash, 2 timeouts
     + CVE-2025-1080 published

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 24.8.5.2    3823(+3571)
     + 25.2.0.2    179(+11)
     + 25.2.0.3    16553(+4787)
     + 25.2.1.2    1308(+0)

     - Two most reported crashes in 25.2.0.3 fixed in 25.2.1.2

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/sd::CustomAnimationPane::onSelect()

     - Thanks to Mike Kaganski


     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/OutlinerView::GetSelection()

     - Thanks to Balazs Varga


   - Most reported crash in 25.2.1.2

       - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SfxItemPool::GetUserOrPoolDefaultItem(unsigned%20short)

     - Since 24.8


* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Reviewd submissions from newcomers
  + Updated Android build instructions
  + Looked into .NET binding binaries and examples, found some issues
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      73(-1)     137(-11)    140(-11)     140(-11)
                reviews     412(-64)   1632(28)    3670(-66)   13502(-50)
                 merged     290(0)     1266(86)    3344(-41)   14171(-35)
              abandoned      13(-3)      85(0)      176(0)       728(-13)
            own commits     206(12)     840(49)    2187(-40)   10041(-19)
         review commits      42(8)      207(8)      614(-9)     3024(-40)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open     785(481)   1120(-25)   1135(-13)     1135(-13)
                reviews     864(4)     3202(114)   7838(-144)   31182(-130)
                 merged      29(10)     129(11)     326(-6)      1408(5)
              abandoned      10(-19)     53(3)      197(-1)       464(-36)
            own commits      15(-2)      81(9)      254(-12)     1289(-11)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 352(352)
        total 429(429)   assigned 34(34)   open 357(357)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Simon Chenery made 21 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 8 patches in 1 month, and 297 patches in 1 year
           Rahul Anand made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Rashesh Padia made 4 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 4 patches in 1 month, and 42 patches in 1 year
           Mohamed Ali made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Ismael Olea made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Manish Bera made 2 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Shardul Vikram Singh made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 2 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Weghorn, Michael made 184 review comments in 1 month, and 504 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 742 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 1164 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 1064 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 1252 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 782 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 670 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 762 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 316 in 1 year
           allotropia jenkins made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 434 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         Add custom Bin Width UI option for Histogram ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/170909
         Force initial exception class on import error in PyUNO ( Augustin Laville )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177843
         PDFium Library update - Text properties ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/178978
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Robin Candau
           Bingwu Zhang
           Taichi Haradaguchi

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + Add your ideas: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + Next step: applications will open on 24th March

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 17 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 137 ok: 136 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok:  10 ( 14) median_ok:   8 ( 11)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 137 ok: 132 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.46% mean_ok:   9 ( 12) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 136 ok: 135 ko:   0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok:  10 ( 14) median_ok:   8 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 137 ok: 131 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.46% mean_ok:  10 ( 13) median_ok:   7 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 292 ok: 221 ko:  60 fail ratio: 20.55% mean_ok:  40 ( 43) median_ok:  36 ( 39)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 323 ok: 267 ko:  31 fail ratio: 9.60% mean_ok:  22 ( 24) median_ok:  19 ( 20)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 288 ok: 254 ko:  24 fail ratio: 8.33% mean_ok:  55 ( 55) median_ok:  44 ( 45)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 320 ok: 244 ko:  65 fail ratio: 20.31% mean_ok:  36 ( 94) median_ok:  35 ( 42)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 350 ok: 200 ko: 114 fail ratio: 32.57% mean_ok: 123 (123) median_ok:  80 ( 81)
gerrit_master              jobs:  59 ok:  37 ko:  16 fail ratio: 27.12% mean_ok: 104 (104) median_ok:  63 ( 63)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 291 ok: 163 ko:  98 fail ratio: 33.68% mean_ok: 125 (127) median_ok:  84 ( 84)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_toolkit_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_writerperfect_writer                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_sw_unoapi_2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_sw_ui_frmdlg                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test4                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport3                gerrit_mac
       5 CppunitTest_sc_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       5 UITest_sw_sidebar                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil <-
       6 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil <-
       9 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       9 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_1                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + list of failures looks worse than it is (Cloph)
     + many failures are from 2 changes before they went in (sc export 4)
     + sc_a11y is only on now abandoned patches
     + ooxmlexport 3 is 24-8 only
     + JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_1 is related to wip a11y work of Michael W
   + just the 2 UITest ones may be real failures

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#165540: Writer kashida position array corrupted during editing
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165540
       + simpler, new implementation
   + Writer tracked changes recording: towards making this per-view (Miklos)
     + toolbar button has a dropdown to decide if just recording for this view or all views

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1533 (-64)
         + enhancements: 400  (-2)
         + needsUXEval: 7 (-5)
         + haveBackTrace: 13 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 49 (+1)
         + documentation:  2 (-1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  7 (-2)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None

      Fixed:
         + CRASH in SfxTabDialogController::ResetHdl(weld::Button &)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165487
             + Thanks to Samuel

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + LibreOffice is getting stuck while loading the .doc document
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165029
         + LibreOffice freezes when opening a specific Word document (.docx)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165482
             + bisected to Miklos, multi-page floating table problems in Writer

         + Crash when changing master slide AND with extra folder templates
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165504
             + bisected to Caolan, has a proposed Gerrit change

         + macOS: Applying to light/dark from  LibreOffice -> Preferences > View doesn't properly refresh the UI until restart

               + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156855#c6

               + Fixes for native bugs done but unable to force a reload of current theme colors (Patrick)


* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +129  -12 (-103) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                10
        V Stuart Foote          9
        m_a_riosv               7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Olivier Hallot          4
        Xisco Faulí             4
        raal                    4
        Dieter                  3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          7
        Buovjaga                3
        Danny Schneider         2
        Jeff Fortin Tam         2
        Justin L                2
        Klaus Kusche            2
        Olivier Hallot          2
        SATYA SRINIVAS K        2
        Sandu                   2
        Colin                   1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kelemen, Gabor          4
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Balazs Varga            2
        Dieter                  2
        Michael Stahl           2
        Németh, László          2
        Patrick Luby            2
        Rathke, Eike            2
        Vajna, Miklos           2
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Xisco Fauli             94
        m.a.riosv               16
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      11
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Raal                    5
        Olivier Hallot          4
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    3
        Aron Budea              2
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        *UNKNOWN*               1


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         libre                  3
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         libre                  6
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Timur Gadzo            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1263(+2) bugs open of 13967(+17) total 23(+2) high prio.

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     4
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            2
         m.a.riosv              1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+1)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 4(+1)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+2)
      Linux         - 4(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 421(-3)
      Calc                     - 243(-2)
      Impress                  - 131(+2)
      LibreOffice              - 58(+1)
      Draw                     - 48(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(-2)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      UI                       - 38(+1)
      Base                     - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 27(+2)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(-1)
      filters and storage      - 25(+1)
      RTL                      - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 10(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)


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