ESC meeting minutes: 2025-03-13
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Mar 13 15:32:31 UTC 2025
* Present:
+ Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Regina, Olivier, Stephan, Michael S, Xisco, Miklos
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ bump the clang in LODE to version 18 (Hossein)
+ in progress
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/182317
+ print preview is dark on macOS, file issue for Heiko (Cloph)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 24.8.6 rc2 next week
+ 25.2.2 rc2 next week
+ problem with the theming change
+ users may want to change the system theme to light, even if the system theme is dark
+ this may result in black-on-black rendering
+ much improved, but still a problem
+ not fully fixed
+ nominally the bug is fixed, the remaining parts still need addressing
+ LibreOffice Themes handled in META bug 125823
+ proposed new expert preference for macOS only in the following patch (Patrck):
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/182740
does preference name and patch need to be changed?
"IgnoreKeysWhenScrollingWithTrackpadOrMagicMouse"
include in 25.2.2 or wait until 25.3.3?
+ expert option: name is not too important (Cloph)
+ no strong preference either way (Heiko)
+ related: preferences vs settings rename on the UI (Cloph)
+ direct problem: help was not updated
=> will update help (Patrick)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156855 (handling native macos light/dark mode changes) now fixed on macOS (Patrick)
macOS fix maybe useful for Windows or Linux?
backport non-themes part of macOS fix to 24.8.6?
+ fine to have it backported (Cloph)
+ though the problem is less visible there
+ it can be reproduced, but the workspace color is light by default, so it mostly doesn't happen (unless the color is customized)
+ if this is not visible there too much, would prefer to not backport, to play is safe (Xisco)
=> suggest to not backport (all)
+ related: tdf#165266 "default Automatic Appearance theme Light and dark mode Radio Button set opposite to System sets unusable colors of background and typeface (comment 5)" (Cloph)
+ much improved now, could use further work
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
+ Update on page numbering (G. Kelemen)
+ Updates and fixes (J. Sanz)
+ on hyphenation (L. Nemetz)
+ Contents on Data Provider (ohallot)
+ Guides
+ Team working on Guides updates
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
217(217) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 6(3) 17(2) 122(-2) 308(-8)
commented 9(3) 31(1) 122(-13) 903(-28)
resolved 4(3) 11(2) 32(0) 181(-3)
+ top 10 contributors:
Olivier Hallot made 37 changes in 1 month, and 391 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 9 changes in 1 month, and 162 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 7 changes in 1 month, and 248 changes in 1 year
m.a.riosv made 5 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 4 changes in 1 month, and 121 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 4 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
Robert Großkopf made 4 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 3 changes in 1 month, and 86 changes in 1 year
Alex Thurgood made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
228(228) (topicUI) bugs open, 17(17) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 6(3) 9(0) 10(0) 19(0)
commented 45(8) 100(-14) 259(-4) 1338(-46)
removed 0(0) 0(0) 1(0) 12(0)
resolved 6(-1) 15(2) 41(-1) 219(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 46 changes in 1 month, and 677 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 34 changes in 1 month, and 212 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 28 changes in 1 month, and 399 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 18 changes in 1 month, and 171 changes in 1 year
Karthik Godha made 15 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 7 changes in 1 month, and 104 changes in 1 year
Werner Tietz made 7 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
Balazs Varga made 6 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 60 changes in 1 year
Radish made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 165684] FILEOPEN .csv
+ [Bug 165680] Need ability to control alignment of line numbering
+ [Bug 165679] Data Provider: Rename "Apply" button to "Preview"
+ [Bug 165614] A value being a date or a time must not be considered formatting
+ [Bug 165616] Insert Row/Column buttons should allow for repeating last action
* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 143(-18) import failure, 31(+1) export failures
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
- new fix https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/182743 for a CellAttributeHelper crash
+ 2 coverity issues
+ 3 ossfuzz issues
- 2 timeouts, 1 crash
* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
+ 24.8.5.2 8742(+4919)
+ 25.2.0.2 183(+4)
+ 25.2.0.3 19962(+3409)
+ 25.2.1.2 4330(+3022)
https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SdrDragResize::MoveSdrDrag(Point%20const%20&)
- New in 25.2
- Code added in 86cd6036273a9031212e131141c03ed4e16e011b -> Sahil?
- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159543
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Reviewed submissions from newcomers
+ Discussed GSoC ideas with volunteers
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 81(8) 149(12) 155(15) 155(15)
reviews 410(-2) 1620(-12) 3542(-128) 13522(20)
merged 236(-54) 1217(-49) 3147(-197) 14144(-27)
abandoned 18(5) 82(-3) 180(4) 728(0)
own commits 127(-79) 795(-45) 2077(-110) 9978(-63)
review commits 47(5) 205(-2) 596(-18) 2988(-36)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 44(-741) 1120(0) 1126(-9) 1126(-9)
reviews 738(-126) 3084(-118) 7466(-372) 31108(-74)
merged 17(-12) 117(-12) 308(-18) 1390(-18)
abandoned 18(8) 62(9) 206(9) 477(13)
own commits 21(6) 83(2) 244(-10) 1270(-19)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 352(352)
total 426(426) assigned 37(37) open 351(351)
+ top 10 contributors:
Simon Chenery made 16 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
Rashesh Padia made 6 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
Bogdan B made 6 patches in 1 month, and 297 patches in 1 year
Rahul Anand made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 43 patches in 1 year
Mohamed Ali made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
Karthik Godha made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
Pierre Vacher made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Ismael Olea made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Weghorn, Michael made 186 review comments in 1 month, and 504 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 140 review comments in 1 month, and 752 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 1080 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 800 in 1 year
Caolán McNamara made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1234 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 1142 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 750 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 676 in 1 year
Hossein made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 306 in 1 year
allotropia jenkins made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 452 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#114441 sal_uLong to better integer type ( Rafał Dobrakowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/166007
tdf#114441 sal_uLong to better integer type ( Rafał Dobrakowski )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/170065
CanvasExtractBitmapData(), CanvasCairoExtractBitmapData() from vcl to canvas ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174098
vcl: flatten BitmapWriteAccess::CopyScanline() functions ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174129
vcl: migrate StretchAndConvert() to BitmapBuffer.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176954
vcl: rename static functions in bmpfast.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176960
vcl: migrate ImplFastCopyScanline() to BitmapBuffer::FastCopyScanline() ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177007
tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177083
tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177084
tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177086
tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177101
tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177104
vcl: move bitmap.hxx to include/vcl/bitmap/Bitmap.hxx ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177132
vcl: migrate ImplUpdateSeparaters() to Edit class ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/178994
vcl: SvxIconChoiceControlEntry -> IconChoiceControlEntry ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179210
vcl: SvtIconChoiceCtrl -> IconChoiceCtrl ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179211
vcl: move IconChoiceCtrl and IconChoiceCtrlEntry to seperate include files ( Chris Sherlock )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179222
remove sw::util::item_cast (mostly duplicates StaticWhichCast) ( Bjoern Michaelsen )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179491
xmlsecurity : use more static constexpr instead of static vector ( Arnaud Versini )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179580
wip: crashtesting: reload of rtf export of forum-de2-13462.odt Invalid read ( Caolán McNamara )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179778
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
shrey_223
Jan Rheinländer
Karthik Godha
langty
Kukee Thoo
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
+ Add your ideas: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
+ need more, better ideas (Hossein)
+ with mentors who have the time
+ if your ideas are near the top of the page, you get more interested students (Ilmari)
+ Some that took attention of people were actually near the bottom (Hossein)
+ Next step: applications will open on 24th March
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 18 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 115 ok: 115 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok: 7 ( 9) median_ok: 5 ( 6)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 116 ok: 114 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.86% mean_ok: 7 ( 8) median_ok: 5 ( 6)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 115 ok: 115 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00% mean_ok: 7 ( 8) median_ok: 5 ( 6)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 116 ok: 115 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.86% mean_ok: 7 ( 8) median_ok: 5 ( 6)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 239 ok: 197 ko: 39 fail ratio: 16.32% mean_ok: 35 ( 36) median_ok: 35 ( 35)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 260 ok: 226 ko: 29 fail ratio: 11.15% mean_ok: 20 ( 20) median_ok: 19 ( 19)
gerrit_mac jobs: 238 ok: 220 ko: 15 fail ratio: 6.30% mean_ok: 48 ( 48) median_ok: 44 ( 44)
gerrit_windows jobs: 246 ok: 217 ko: 27 fail ratio: 10.98% mean_ok: 35 ( 35) median_ok: 34 ( 34)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 275 ok: 187 ko: 80 fail ratio: 29.09% mean_ok: 66 ( 66) median_ok: 64 ( 64)
gerrit_master jobs: 30 ok: 19 ko: 11 fail ratio: 36.67% mean_ok: 51 ( 51) median_ok: 44 ( 44)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 245 ok: 168 ko: 69 fail ratio: 28.16% mean_ok: 67 ( 67) median_ok: 64 ( 64)
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 UITest_sw_ui_frmdlg gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 UITest_sw_sidebar gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
5 UITest_impress_tests gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
6 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
+ this week everything went fine (Cloph)
+ arm64 Windows tinderbox status?
+ pdfium is currently broken there, what to do?
+ just disable/hide the problem or leave it red?
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/182856 for the disable way (Miklos)
+ maybe can take a look (Stephan)
+ do we have a linux arm64 tinderbox? (Hossein)
+ no, but should work, distros do this (Cloph)
+ the flatpack builds also do this (Stephan)
+ native windows arm64 builds (Cloph)
+ newer VS results in an openssl miscompile, unfortunately
+ upgrade carefully (17.10 LTSC is fine, 17.12.x or 17.13 as well as preview fail)
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ (attending CSUN Assistive Technology Conference in Anaheim)
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ tdf#80596: FILEOPEN DOC: Implemented sprmPDxc* LR indentation
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80596
+ tdf#70102: RTL: Mirrored toolbar button icons don't always look suitable
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70102
+ Added code support for icon-themes to provide RTL graphics for UNO commands
+ Bug still open, pending graphics work
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1555 (+22)
+ enhancements: 402 (+2)
+ needsUXEval: 7 (+0)
+ haveBackTrace: 13 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 48 (-1)
+ documentation: 2 (+0)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 7 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
None
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+121 +8 (-86) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Julien Nabet 9
V Stuart Foote 6
Balázs Varga (allotropia) 5
Caolán McNamara 5
Heiko Tietze 5
Mike Kaganski 5
Buovjaga 4
Olivier Hallot 4
Jonathan Clark 3
Karthik 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 10
Rafael Lima 7
Liz Lee 6
Eyal Rozenberg 5
Olivier Hallot 4
Aron Budea 3
Dastagiri 3
Xisco Faulí 3
Buovjaga 2
Gerald Pfeifer 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Caolán McNamara 5
Olivier Hallot 4
Karthik Godha 3
Patrick Luby 3
Balazs Varga 2
Heiko Tietze 2
Justin Luth 2
Le Grand, Armin 2
Michael Stahl 2
1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
m.a.riosv 19
Raal 9
*UNKNOWN* 6
Heiko Tietze 5
Ilmari Lauhakangas 5
Vernon, Stuart Foote 5
Xisco Fauli 5
Olivier Hallot 4
yosi3260+libre at gmail.com 3
Aron Budea 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Xisco Fauli 3
libre 2
Aron Budea 1
huanhuanbeibei 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Xisco Fauli 3
Aron Budea 1
libre 1
Olivier Hallot 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1256(-7) bugs open of 13983(+16) total 23(+0) high prio.
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Xisco Fauli 2
libre 1
Raal 1
Jim Raykowski 1
nobu 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 9(+0)
Calc - 6(+0)
LibreOffice - 4(+0)
Impress - 2(+0)
Installation - 1(+0)
UI - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 17(+0)
Linux - 4(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 421(+0)
Calc - 241(-2)
Impress - 128(-3)
LibreOffice - 57(-1)
Draw - 47(-1)
Writer: docx filter - 45(+0)
Crashes - 44(+0)
Base - 36(+0)
Borders - 35(+0)
UI - 35(-3)
Writer: perf - 34(-1)
Writer: other filter - 30(+1)
Chart - 27(+0)
filters and storage - 26(+1)
Printing and PDF export - 24(-1)
RTL - 23(+1)
BASIC - 19(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 18(+0)
graphics stack - 13(+0)
Formula Editor - 11(+1)
framework - 3(+0)
sdk - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
Installation - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 2(+0)
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