ESC meeting minutes: 2025-03-20

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Mar 20 15:38:05 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Jonathan, Heiko, Stephan, Ilmari, Hossein, Caolan, Michael S, Stephan, Olivier, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
   + bump the clang in LODE to version 18 (Hossein)
     + in progress
       https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/182317
     + Discussed in dev mailing list
       + Need to know the best approach
       https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2025-March/093131.html
     + suggest to say a broken combination of clang + libstdc++ is not a problem we should solve (Stephan)
   + print preview is dark on macOS, file issue for Heiko (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Xisco)
   + 24.8.6 rc2 tagged earlier this week. Builds will be available later today
   + 25.2.2 rc2 tag is planned for tomorrow morning.

       - Patches waiting for review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/project:core+branch:libreoffice-25-2-2+status:open

       - Waiting for https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183071


* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents
        + Scriptforge pages (A. Romedenne)
        + Page number update (G. Kelemen)
        + Calc Dup's precisions (ohalot)
        + update and fixes (S. Horacek, ohallot, A. Timar)
     + Guides
        + Published Draw Guide 25.2 (P. Schofield)
        + Work in progress for Calc and Getting Started guides (D. Maddern, ohallot)
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         218(218) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      6(0)    20(3)      88(-34)   304(-4)
          commented     11(2)    28(-3)    126(4)     881(-22)
           resolved      1(-3)   11(0)      31(-1)    179(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 32 changes in 1 month, and 391 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 7 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 4 changes in 1 month, and 121 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 4 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 3 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 3 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
           Andras Timar made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 2 changes in 1 month, and 156 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 1 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Ldrap Kum made 1 changes in 1 month, and 1 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         226(226) (topicUI) bugs open, 15(15) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      3(-3)      9(0)     10(0)       19(0)
          commented     35(-10)   115(15)   269(10)    1291(-47)
            removed      0(0)       0(0)      1(0)       11(-1)
           resolved      4(-2)     18(3)     40(-1)     218(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 59 changes in 1 month, and 658 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 41 changes in 1 month, and 386 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 25 changes in 1 month, and 203 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 25 changes in 1 month, and 185 changes in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 19 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
           Kłos, Szymon made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 5 changes in 1 month, and 60 changes in 1 year
           Radish made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Walter made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Amin Irgaliev made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 165814] Consider using vertical tabs for any GTK dialog with > than 6 tabs
     + [Bug 163192] Default options of database ranges
  -> + [Bug 165803] new theming feature breaks old presentations
       + see also gerrit change above (Xisco)
         + not sure if a backport should be done here or not
         + this one changes the doc background back to white (Heiko)
         + not ideal, but working
       + alternative change from Heiko:
         + leave the color config unchanged, but change the templates
           + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183118
         + need to also change how automatic color is applied in Impress
           + would need a code pointer for this
       + some options:
         + keep the doc area white, even in dark mode -> Sahil's approach
         + automatic color vs explicit white/black -> Heiko's approach
       + did you consider interop here? (Hossein)
         + would be nice to stay compatible here
         + the problem here, e.g. Beehive (Heiko)
           + expect light background, content is dark
           + looks broken with dark background
         + in Writer, on print, the doc color is ignored
         + in Impress, there is no such "switch back to default" behavior, there should be one
           + ideal would be to only change Impress here, happy with the Writer behavior (Heiko)
     + [Bug 165792] Rename "Spotlight" to "Highlight styles" in Style List
     + [Bug 165739] Show all math sidebar panels in one deck
     + [Bug 165725] Allow targeting of styles and formatting via regular expressions
            in Find and Replace

  -> + On loading a CSV file, don't remember the From Row setting
       after application restart
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165684
       + small amount of scenarios where you want to remember the settings of the dialog (Heiko)
       + options
         + just change this dialog
         + a way to reset all settings related to remembered dialog options
       + collision between automated detection result vs what's remembered from the previous dialog

* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 144(+1) import failure, 32(+1) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 2 coverity issues
     + 3 ossfuzz issues, 1 crash, 2 timeouts

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 24.8.5.2    14678(+5936)
     + 25.2.0.2    190(+7)
     + 25.2.0.3    22864(+2902)
     + 25.2.1.2    8289(+3959)

     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwRenderData::ViewOptionAdjustStop()
     - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164120
     - Printing to PDF
     - Similar to https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=96167 ?

* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Receiving many patches from those interested in GSoC
  + Added some new GSoC ideas
    https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
    + If you have an idea and you are willing to do mentoring, please add
  + Cygwin 3.6 released, which solved some hang issues
    https://cygwin.com/pipermail/cygwin-announce/2025-March/012224.html
   + Waiting to be merged in MSYS2 for "Git bash for Windows"
     https://github.com/msys2/MSYS2-packages/pull/5265 (thanks Ilmari for the links)
           committer...   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      77(-4)    157(8)      158(3)       158(3)
                reviews     502(92)   1600(-20)   3580(38)    13494(-28)
                 merged     253(17)   1137(-80)   3086(-61)   14163(19)
              abandoned      18(0)      67(-15)    181(1)       729(1)
            own commits     142(15)    745(-50)   2047(-30)    9958(-20)
         review commits      72(25)    228(23)     634(38)     2985(-3)
         contributor...   1 week    1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open     112(68)   1119(-1)     1119(-7)      1119(-7)
                reviews     778(40)   2956(-128)   7320(-146)   31128(20)
                 merged      30(13)    119(2)       323(15)      1393(3)
              abandoned      17(-1)     72(10)      158(-48)      489(12)
            own commits      29(8)      91(8)       257(13)      1278(8)
         review commits       0(0)       0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 352(352)
        total 425(425)   assigned 38(38)   open 349(349)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Simon Chenery made 21 patches in 1 month, and 40 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 7 patches in 1 month, and 298 patches in 1 year
           Rashesh Padia made 6 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 44 patches in 1 year
           Mohamed Ali made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 2 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Pierre Vacher made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Shantanu Oak made 2 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 138 review comments in 1 month, and 1076 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 124 review comments in 1 month, and 496 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 750 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 1256 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 808 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 672 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 1134 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 318 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 780 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 832 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#51357 add TriangleWipe transition to svg export by impress ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/163658
         tdf#162967 Add "More Options" to Borders/Border Style ( Kira Tubo )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174463
         vcl: extract BitmapBuffer::GetExtraBitsMask() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176843
         vcl: extract BitmapBuffer::GetChecksum() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176844
         vcl: extract lcl_GetDownConvertedPalette() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176850
         vcl: merge bmpfast.cxx to BitmapBuffer.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177008
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177114
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177116
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177118
         tdf#150800 Always show vertical ruler side option (   )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/178531
         crashreporting: check pActualSection ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/179256
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Banobe Pascal (Collabora)
           Ahmed Khaled
           Muhammad Danish
           Nam Bui

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + Add your ideas: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
     + need more, better ideas (Hossein)
       + with mentors who have the time
   + Next step: applications will open on 24th March

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 19 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs:  95 ok:  90 ko:   2 fail ratio: 2.11% mean_ok:   8 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs:  94 ok:  89 ko:   5 fail ratio: 5.32% mean_ok:   9 ( 13) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs:  95 ok:  91 ko:   2 fail ratio: 2.11% mean_ok:   9 ( 13) median_ok:   6 (  9)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs:  94 ok:  89 ko:   5 fail ratio: 5.32% mean_ok:   8 ( 14) median_ok:   6 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 320 ok: 212 ko: 103 fail ratio: 32.19% mean_ok:  38 ( 40) median_ok:  37 ( 37)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 356 ok: 274 ko:  61 fail ratio: 17.13% mean_ok:  21 ( 23) median_ok:  19 ( 19)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 297 ok: 254 ko:  31 fail ratio: 10.44% mean_ok:  52 ( 52) median_ok:  47 ( 47)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 289 ok: 247 ko:  33 fail ratio: 11.42% mean_ok:  36 ( 41) median_ok:  35 ( 35)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 402 ok: 189 ko: 179 fail ratio: 44.53% mean_ok:  70 ( 70) median_ok:  66 ( 66)
gerrit_master              jobs:  49 ok:  24 ko:  21 fail ratio: 42.86% mean_ok:  52 ( 52) median_ok:  45 ( 45)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 351 ok: 165 ko: 156 fail ratio: 44.44% mean_ok:  72 ( 72) median_ok:  67 ( 67)

    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       4 CppunitTest_sd_filter_eppt        gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 JunitTest_svx_unoapi        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil

           -> New this week.

      -> Related to 8a17b7f0a679ebf21bcfb425186b205d996d129b "

     tdf#131595 Improve drawinglayer flushing mechanism." ?


      10 Killed by the kill-wrapper        gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      11 aborted by jenkins job timeout        gerrit_windows
      43 Killed by the kill-wrapper        gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + this week: quite some hangs this week (Xisco)
   + CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests failures are also new
     + saw 2 attempts to fix this by Noel (Stephan)
     + should also help with the hangs

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + on vacation
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#80596: FILEOPEN DOC: Implemented sprmPDxc* LR indentation
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80596
     + tdf#83844: FILEOPEN DOCX: Implemented *Chars LR indentation
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83844
       + CJK horizontal indentation implemented for DOC/DOCX
       + With debugged/fixed semantics (particularly hanging indentation)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1566 (+11)
         + enhancements: 413  (+11)
         + needsUXEval: 8 (+1)
         + haveBackTrace: 13 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (-1)
         + documentation:  3 (+1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  7 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None



     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         None

* QA stats

     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +119  +2 (-95) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                19
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 9
        V Stuart Foote          9
        m_a_riosv               5
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Andreas Heinisch        3
        Balázs Varga (allotropia) 3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Hossein                 3
        Oliver Specht (CIB)     3
        mathieu.sachot          3
        Aron Budea              2
        Banobe Pascal           2
        Gerald Pfeifer          2
        Jeff Fortin Tam         2
        V Stuart Foote          2
        studog                  2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kelemen, Gabor          7
        Balazs Varga            3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Grandin, Noel           2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Vajna, Miklos           2
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Bayram Çiçek            1
        Heiko Tietze            1
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               14
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      11
        *UNKNOWN*               9
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    5
        Raal                    3
        Specht, Oliver          3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        yosi3260+libre at gmail.com 3
        Dieter                  2
        opp                     2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         libre                  2
         Raal                   2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Johnny_M               1
         Weghorn, Michael       1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         libre                  2
         Raal                   2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Johnny_M               1
         Weghorn, Michael       1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1247(-9) bugs open of 13991(+8) total 23(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Johnny_M               1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         m.a.riosv              1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+0)
      Linux         - 4(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 415(-6)
      Calc                     - 241(+0)
      Impress                  - 131(+3)
      LibreOffice              - 55(-2)
      Draw                     - 47(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 44(-1)
      Base                     - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      UI                       - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 27(+0)
      filters and storage      - 25(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 14(+1)
      Formula Editor           - 11(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)


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