ESC meeting minutes: 2025-05-29

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 29 14:24:45 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Olivier, Jonathan, Cloph, Michael W, Caolan, Miklos, Xisco

* Completed Action Items:
   + update the core.git README.md for the new macOS build baseline (Cloph)
     → https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185895 (merged)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 25.2.4 rc2 this week, to be tagged tomorrow
   + 25.8: beta 1 / feature freeze in 1 week
     + includes a branch-off from master

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontenst2
        + Fixes by J. Nabet and buovjaga
     + Guides
        + Progressing

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         220(220) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     10(4)    31(1)      55(-2)    275(-12)
          commented     16(5)    73(0)     192(15)    862(-4)
           resolved      8(7)    13(5)      29(4)     151(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 52 changes in 1 month, and 393 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 28 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 18 changes in 1 month, and 183 changes in 1 year
           Balland-Poirier, Laurent made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Philippe Cloutier made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 6 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 5 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 5 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 4 changes in 1 month, and 243 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 4 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Missing Heiko
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         222(222) (topicUI) bugs open, 13(13) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      2(-4)    11(-1)     11(-2)      15(-2)
          commented     19(-16)   71(-13)   191(-27)   1071(-49)
            removed      0(-2)     2(0)       2(0)        7(0)
           resolved      5(3)     10(3)      42(2)      188(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 34 changes in 1 month, and 310 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 31 changes in 1 month, and 519 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 15 changes in 1 month, and 160 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 15 changes in 1 month, and 192 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 12 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           Devansh Varshney made 9 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 41 changes in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 6 changes in 1 month, and 32 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 5 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year

* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 132(+0) import failure, 27(+0) export failures
      - 111 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 3 coverity issues
     + 1 ossfuzz issue
     - 1 timeout. 1 new fuzzer, eot

* Crash Reporting from crashreport.libreoffice.org (Xisco)
     + 25.2.0.3    34012(+0)
     + 25.2.1.2    26297(+0)
     + 25.2.2.2    30652(+0)
     + 25.2.3.2    4857(+0)
     + Guilhem fixed the bin/compare-crashreport-stats.py, thanks
     + no data yet (Xisco)

* Mentoring (Ilmari)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open     106(60)     166(51)     183(55)      183(55)
                reviews     350(-4)    1292(-46)   3184(-44)   13288(18)
                 merged     239(-37)   1029(-34)   3017(-67)   13969(29)
              abandoned       9(-10)     64(-1)     186(-5)      751(2)
            own commits     191(-35)    781(5)     2135(-17)    9810(51)
         review commits      41(6)      188(7)      563(8)      2822(-18)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      36(-507)    591(-21)    621(-9)      621(-9)
                reviews     780(-14)    2698(44)    7092(-62)   30742(132)
                 merged      36(20)      102(25)     271(16)     1332(16)
              abandoned       5(-15)     254(-34)    649(-20)    1008(-4)
            own commits      12(-1)       72(1)      214(-4)     1183(-12)
         review commits       0(0)         0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 348(348)
        total 416(416)   assigned 54(54)   open 326(326)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Simon Chenery made 7 patches in 1 month, and 53 patches in 1 year
           Juraj Šarinay made 7 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           David Hashe made 7 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Shantanu Oak made 6 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
           Akshay Dubey made 4 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 4 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Kurt Nordback made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Khaled made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Rashesh Padia made 2 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 1206 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 1190 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 790 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 840 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 528 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 378 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 882 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 330 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 66 review comments in 1 month, and 674 in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 332 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         simplify this workaround ( Noel Grandin )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/181501
         tdf#164969 add a separate entry for separator color in StyleSettings ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/182154
         tdf#145614 Convert #define FALSE & TRUE to constexpr ( Ahmed Khaled )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183049
         tdf#158237 Use C++20 contains() instead of find() and end() ( Ahmed Khaled )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183051
         tdf#163691 Use std::copy() instead of memcpy() ( Zainab Abbasi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183226
         tdf#160219 Added confirm dialog to "Delete all comments" (draw/impress) ( Mohamed Hani )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183227
         tdf128616 Add the rectangular box page style and number ( Manish Bera )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/183231
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Aleksi Kallio

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + June 2: Coding officially begins!

* Commit Access

* ESC composition refreshing (Miklos)
   + resignations: Armin, Lubos and Thorsten, due to the allotropia + Collabora merger
   + Stephan, Michael S -> change affiliation to Collabora
   + who can update <https://www.documentfoundation.org/engineering-sc/>?
   + git repo to edit is on gerrit (Cloph)
     https://git.libreoffice.org/infra/documentfoundationorg
   + AI: update the ESC page as above (Cloph)

* Developer Certification (Stephan/László)
   + Miklos is stepping down here, due to the merger (see above)
   + resting since: 4 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 184 ok: 165 ko:  12 fail ratio: 6.52% mean_ok:   7 ( 32) median_ok:   5 ( 21)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 186 ok: 170 ko:   9 fail ratio: 4.84% mean_ok:   7 ( 31) median_ok:   5 ( 18)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 185 ok: 163 ko:  14 fail ratio: 7.57% mean_ok:   7 ( 32) median_ok:   5 ( 19)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 185 ok: 169 ko:  11 fail ratio: 5.95% mean_ok:   7 ( 32) median_ok:   6 ( 19)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 374 ok: 265 ko:  92 fail ratio: 24.60% mean_ok:  37 ( 61) median_ok:  33 ( 51)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 402 ok: 335 ko:  28 fail ratio: 6.97% mean_ok:  20 ( 40) median_ok:  19 ( 25)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 373 ok: 308 ko:  41 fail ratio: 10.99% mean_ok:  51 ( 52) median_ok:  45 ( 46)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 358 ok: 300 ko:  37 fail ratio: 10.34% mean_ok:  40 ( 54) median_ok:  36 ( 39)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 434 ok: 228 ko: 151 fail ratio: 34.79% mean_ok:  98 ( 99) median_ok:  82 ( 82)
gerrit_master              jobs:  65 ok:  30 ko:  25 fail ratio: 38.46% mean_ok:  70 ( 70) median_ok:  64 ( 64)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 375 ok: 202 ko: 128 fail ratio: 34.13% mean_ok: 104 (105) median_ok:  89 ( 89)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sc_shapetest                gerrit_windows
       3 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter6                gerrit_windows
       5 UITest_search_replace                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       7 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 UITest_sw_table                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + this week: had some problems with a macOS builder + a Windows builder, all fixed now (Cloph)
     + a good week overall
     + even some of this was is proposed changes

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + continued decoupling vcl::Window a11y from VCLXWindow
       + Java a11y tests currently rely on vcl::Window's XAccessible being VCLXWindow
       + may port the Java tests on C++, would be closer to real-world use, too (Michael W)
     + Accerciser, ATK, Qt: Improved support for locale and AT-SPI Application interface
       + and corresponding imlementation for gtk3/qt6 VCL plugins in LO
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#166104 All apos change to Asian font when there is Asian text in the para
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166104
       + Was the fix for tdf#66791, but seems disruptive
       + Current plan: keep most of change, revert this behavior, reopen tdf#66791
       + Can fix tdf#66791 again by implementing style:script-type
     + tdf#147299 vcl: Windows IMEs not correctly set to vert mode
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147299
       + Fixed
     + tdf#155158 vcl: Windows IME not ending comp when dismissed
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155158
       + Fixed
   + cspell support – yay or nay? (cloph)
     + e.g. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/185979
     + maybe a middle ground: keep changes to individual files at a minimum, but have the config (Miklos)
   + gdb pretty printers, do they work in vscode? (Caolan)
     + saw somebody using it, OUString were not pretty-printed
     + need to use the vscode config, then it works (Cloph)
      https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/refs/heads/master/.vscode/vs-code-template.code-workspace.in#205 (template is used by configure to create the template in builddir, with make vscode-ide-integration it will also make the compile-commands.json file from vim-ide-integration)
   + next week: Cloph will run the call

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1608 (-43)
         + enhancements: 457  (-4)
         + needsUXEval: 5 (-3)
         + haveBackTrace: 14 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  1 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  6 (-1)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         None

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +86  +11 (-99) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                17
        Mike Kaganski           11
        Olivier Hallot          6
        m_a_riosv               6
        Jonathan Clark          5
        Noel Grandin            4
        Andreas Heinisch        3
        Caolán McNamara         3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Mohit Marathe (allotropia) 3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Mike Kaganski           3
        nobu                    3
        Adalbert Hanßen         2
        Cutter                  2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Justin L                2
        Telesto                 2
        urbane.lad              2
        wqfz                    2
        Aron Budea              1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Grandin, Noel           4
        Olivier Hallot          4
        Caolán McNamara         3
        Jonathan Clark          3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Mohit Marathe           3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      2
        Aron Budea              1
        Balazs Varga            1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        *UNKNOWN*               19
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      19
        Olivier Hallot          8
        m.a.riosv               7
        yosi3260+libre at gmail.com 5
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Jonathan Clark          3
        Nabet, Julien           3
                                2
        Bogdan B                2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         8
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     4
         Raal                   1
         Telesto                1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         9
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Jazevedo               1
         Raal                   1
         Telesto                1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1270(-3) bugs open of 14101(+14) total 23(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         vijaya chandra         4
         nobu                   4
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Bogdan B               1
         Jazevedo               1
         m.a.riosv              1
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Raal                   1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 7(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 420(-1)
      Calc                     - 250(-4)
      Impress                  - 128(-1)
      LibreOffice              - 59(+0)
      Draw                     - 48(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 46(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      UI                       - 38(+2)
      Borders                  - 37(-1)
      Base                     - 36(-1)
      Writer: perf             - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 28(+0)
      filters and storage      - 28(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+1)
      RTL                      - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 9(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)


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