[Libreoffice-ux-advise] Header and Footers separators design
cedric.bosdonnat.ooo at free.fr
Mon Sep 12 00:51:56 PDT 2011
On Sat, 2011-09-10 at 00:04 +0200, Christoph Noack wrote:
> I thought it is time to quickly check a daily build ... just (!) to have
> a look. But then working with the new header/footer indicators was so
> much fun, really! To me, Writer starts to look modern and fresh (having
> less borders, the rather new document shadow, the indicators).
Great to read that :)
> But, playing with it lets you notice some stuff, so here is a rough list
> of things - I hope the descriptions are somehow helpful:
> * Issue: Changing to header/footer via keybindings does neither
> activate the header/footer markup, nor the header/footer
> separator with tab
Ok, I'll add it to my TODO list.
> * Proposal/Issue: Having the cursor in the header and adding the
> footer (via '+') should set the cursor in the footer (or the
> header - depends on what's getting added). While playing with
> different page styles, the cursor was set to the next page
Yes, I saw that one already, but wanted to have the timer thing working
before hacking on it.
> * Proposal: The whole button should act as a menu, so the vertical
> divider can go --> greatly simplifies to "hit" the button (sorry
> for mentioning that late)
Ok, let's do that... that'll require a few code changes... but nothing
> * Issue: No mouse over effects yet (hovering, activated button).
> Unfortunately, the mousover effects for the Notes buttons are
> also not fully implemented (grrr) - so it is only partly a
I'm working on the mouse-over thing to show the separators, and I still
haven't set any tooltip to the button.
> * Issue: In certain cases, the cursor blinks at an unusual fast
> rate and the graphic items start flickering. Cannot reproduce it
> at the moment :-(
Yeah, I know there are some times where the Paint method is called way
too often. I still need to investigate this.
> * Great!!!: The whole region of either header/footer or document
> responds to a click and selects the edit mode for that area.
> That's something I've missed to say :-)
Hehe, that was the first change I made ;)
> Cor, Astron - would be great if you could have a look as well. Whether
> it now works better ... and maybe you can tell whether the flickering
> happens also on your side.
The flickering is happening for me as well... but I still have no
solution to fix it: that painting code is still pretty complex to me.
> You've mentioned in your last mail that visual refinements should wait
> until the basic stuff works fine. Tell me when you're ready ... I've
> tried to refine the design a bit by not changing to much (to limit your
> Here is the recent visual representation (daily build):
> Here is my proposal:
> The changes (more details if you need it):
> * Tab with a bit less height (28px -> 25px)
> * Removed the vertical devider (make it a full button)
> * Width of indicator line to 1px
> * Refined contrast by making a light blue / dark blue line -->
> unusual line for LibO (means people might notice that it's some
I can't understand what you mean here... Can you give me some details?
> * Added a gradient (top: #caebfe --> bottom: #a4dcfcff). Also
> improves readability of the text a bit.
Don't forget that those colors are configured, is there any way to
compute one of the two colors form the other one?
> * (Anti-aliasing due to my graphics program)
Hum, I'll try to play with the OutputDevice configuration, it may be a
bit to change to get it Anti-Aliased.
Thanks for your comments,
OOo Eclipse Integration developer
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