[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 57433] There is no border between the document and the toolbar area

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Mon Jan 27 07:13:55 PST 2014


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57433

--- Comment #33 from Michael Meeks <michael.meeks at collabora.com> ---
Hi Emir,

> One of the finest examples of how to fix(!) one thing which ain't broke.

Well - opinions differ on how important the UX is and changing / improving it -
which necessarily involves harming some use-case or other: which will
eventually be fixed (and more so if people grapple with the code and/or submit
patches).

> Aside from the fact that white toolbar background is already a no-no from the 
> Oo era, the situation could be easily improved with small distinguishing 

Great - it is that very easy of easily improving it that makes this such a
great candidate for a new programmer (such as yourself ?) - if you're
interested in hacking on this [ and no simply reverting a change is not usually
a positive contribution ], then I'd be happy to provide some code pointers &
mentoring - get a build & see how it goes.

> For example there is this Bug 73051, even number 10 is not fitting inside
> the box, let alone most font names, what is the logic behind breaking this?

Most likely it's just a bug - there is no logic to bugs; many of them are
created by poorly coupled code whereby you change one thing and it has an
unexpected impact elsewhere: the 'obvious' solution - "change nothing" doesn't
lead to a terribly dynamic project :-) As with all bugs it needs to be filed,
prioritised and ideally have fixes contributed. This one we can look at post
FOSDEM in the UX hackfest perhaps.

> Another thing, styles dropdown even do not house any translations other than
> English, because someone made the styles dropdown thinner, or did not take
> the time to make it resizable

Kendy may be interested in that for the UX hackfest too.

> which would be the logical course of action if thought with good UX in mind. 

AFAIK the style dropdown including previous of styles is a real UX improvement
for people - done with UX in mind.

> Really, I beg, please, if it ain't broke do not fix it. 

Sure - however opinions differ on whether LibreOffice is already the pinacle of
design and usability :-) if you want things to improve, some transient
regressions come with that.

Thanks for reporting them ! that's good; however, please don't feel you're
entitled to having your issues fixed on your timeline -unless- you provide code
changes to go with them: if you do provide code changes, then I for one feel
bad if they are not merged promptly :-)

All the best.

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