[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 82041] FORMATTING: Request: Undo the change of default template for heading level 3 and 4

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82041

--- Comment #11 from Owen Genat <owen.genat at gmail.com> ---
(In reply to comment #9)
> I think that font color must be set to automatic for each predefined style;
> not black, not gray, automatic.

Again, I agree. I have no problem with additional designs in terms of optional
templates that are either shipped with LO or provided via the templates
website, but the /default/ should always be as plain as possible. LO is a
multi-platform, multi-locale product, which means defaults need to be very
simple and as unobtrusive / adaptable as possible.

(In reply to comment #10)
> There were a lot of discussions in the Design list about a new default
> template. 

The majority of the discussion seems to have been about typeface, size,
spacing, margins, etc. I must say I am dismayed by some of the typographic
misconceptions in that pair of threads. The only references that I can find to
the use of "gray" are:

> Changes:
> - Grayscale headings 

> Also think we should test the grayscale range in headings on
> a low grade laser printer, 40% gray may be difficult to read
> in such a printout. 

> I've changed headings starting from Heading 6, I used gray color and 
> I hope that works with black-and-white printers. 

> I really like what Google Docs does:
> it uses gray for the later titles, so that they stand out. 

I do not feel that constitutes extensive discussion, in relation to changing
the tone (black to grey) of only some heading levels. I had a look at all the
available proposed templates and they vary so much it is disheartening. No
clear versioning, file naming, or an indication of what has generally changed
(i.e., font size from A pt to B pt for H1), or even details about behind the
scenes changes (i.e., linking of a style or auto-update settings, changing a
size from a point size to equivalent percentage size). 

This all makes for a difficult design process. I can kind of see why the Design
team has retreated to Redmine. At least some of these issues will be more
manageable, though I remained concerned it may not address the process.

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