[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #18 from Heiko Tietze <heiko.tietze at user-prompt.com> ---
Terrific work, Jay! And a lot of nitpicking from my side for both
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91820 and Writer here.

Summary: 

The menu would become easier to understand if groups had a caption, just as
suggested for the toolbar. Since that's not possible yet we should discuss to
improve the lengthy Writer>Insert by splitting stuff into an extra menu similar
to the suggested Sheet for Calc. 
For some items the icon isn't helpful others could benefit if one is added. 
And finally I'd recommend to have the meta discussion whether or not to update
menus in an umbrella ticket. 

En detail:

File
* perhaps Wizard and Templates without separator as part of the section above
* Reload and Version downto Properties (places Export closer to Save); all four
items could be moved into a submenu 'Advanced'
* Isn't „Save a copy“ similar to „Save as...“?
* Preview in Browser to View preview section

Edit
* Select All always on top of the section (→ writer toolbar)
* Is 'Merge Documents…' really that important to have it on the first level?
* 'Select Text': is that 'Select Text Area Only'? (double checked the LO wiki);
could go into the  mode submenu with a separator to the actual modes
* 'Exchange database' doesn't it belongs to bibliography?
* 'Plug in' rather 'Allow to edit plugins' is a toogle item but with the icon
the state is not clear; I'd remove the icon here and make it a check menu item
(cf. View menu); it could be placed next to the edit mode item
* Object is disabled but as a container of subitems it shouldn't
* ImageMap – no idea about the function and camel case; wiki „Allows you to
attach URLs to specific areas, called hotspots, on a graphic or a group of
graphics.„ So why not have a submenu links that contains of 'Hyperlink' (the
current Link) plus 'Arealink' (the ImageMap stuff)
* (Insert) Hyperlink and Edit > Link use the same dialog – we could also remove
it here

View
* both calc and writer have exclusive views/layouts but you show checkboxes and
icons; should be a radio menu item without icons
* sequence of items at the Calc toolbar should be equal to Writer (-> Status
Bar)
* Toogle items for Writer (field stuff) have icons that again makes reading of
the state difficult; Navigator and Data Sources have own frames so the icon is
okay there (needs to be added to the guideline)
* Table boundaries has a duplicate at Table; remove it here
* Comments could go to the Edit > (changes section) or below Insert > Comment
* Hide images reverts the usual view functions; [x] Show images is better
* 'Sidebar' should get a real name and an icon (toggle button) to align it with
the other items in this section
* 100% Zoom at the top level perhaps

Insert (Writer)
* Formatting marks belong to the same section as page and manual break
* Document is not that important; move it below Object
* Section… - never heard about ;-) - and the envelope are something like a
textbox
* All together I'm a little bit lost here since naming/classification the
sections is not easy; this menu is too large
Insert (Calc)
* Hyperlink is part of the section with text box; should get aligned
* Names one level down under Objects

Format
* Looks like a heavy multipurpose menu (I'm looking onto the screenshots only)
– no idea what's below Text - but is there a difference between Number Format
and Lists?
* I wonder if users do Insert object and Edit or Format it later; As a working
hypothesis, Edit seems to be somehow related to operations/functions and Format
to the content → double check content
* Anchor is an important function that could be supported by an icon just like
for Alignment

Format (Calc)
* Character, Paragraph, Page: Are those needed on the top level or can they get
moved below Text, for instance
* Where are the Wrap and Rotate submenus?
Sheet (Calc)
* Link to External Data is somewhat lost between the Sheet options; Isn't it
better located at Data > streams, source?
* I would place the sheet handling functions (move, hide, rename, protect etc.)
into a submenu; separation looks artificial
* For Writer this menu would be Page and could clean up the Insert menu

Table (Writer)
* Single Table Properties could be moved up to the first section; otherwise
it's kind of a pattern (or could become that) to have access to the generic
property dialog at the menu footer (cf. Edit)

Data (Calc)
* I use Pivot a lot and would like to start it directly from an extra section
(but ignore individual wishes)
* Statistics are shortcuts to functions (Insert menu)
* Consolidate (never used that) seems to be something like Pivot tables

Tools (Calc)
* Protect and Share sheets into the Sheets menu
* Solver is similar to Consolidate, IMHO
Tools (Writer)
* Footnote and Endnote are frequently used and better placed under Insert (or a
new Page menu); Insert contains of such a submenu in your proposal
* Sort, Calculate – if those belong to tables move it there
* Update is a again something I'd look for at the objects; not sure what to do
here

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