[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91820] Reorganization of the menu bar for Calc

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91820

--- Comment #4 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #3)
> > > Why do you rename Freeze to Freeze panes ?
> > 
> > The word 'Freeze' by itself has no meaning. It had no meaning as Window >
> > Freeze as you are not actually freezing the window. Freeze panes is used in
> > Excel, but we could use Freeze Rows/Columns if that is more preferable.
> 
> OK clear, thanks.

So do you have a preference here?

> > > Tools
> > > Cell contents - I miss this. It is not about Data as the function in that
> > > menu.
> > 
> > This was moved and to Data > Calculate as the entries are to recalculate
> > data.
> 
> It is also about AutoInput. So that argument is not correct.

So are the 3 calculate items correct to place under Data?

> > > We had another discussion on the position of the Tools menu. Do I see that
> > > it is missed here?
> > 
> > No we had discussions about it during the HIG work and decided that Tools
> > would always be next to Window for consistency of the menu bar.
> 
> I brought forward long time ago, that the applied sequence is
> File-...-Format-Tools. And all module specific menu's between Tools and
> Window. So that was the originally chosen consistency.
> (With the sole exception that Table was added in Writer later)
> But I do not think that I prefer the one consistency over the other.

Guess my words werent clear when i wrote that sentence. Yes we (me and you)
discussed the issue in the past and then we (me and heiko) discussed it as part
of the HIG. In the HIG we decided that we need to consistency across apps, so
it was preferred to have the least opened menus (tools, windows, help) to the
end together, like in writer.

> > > Data
> > > AutoFilter and More filters.. I would not do that. Shortcut Data > Filter
> > > immediately offers AutoFilter
> > 
> > The stats showed that 78% of users who opened the Data > Filter submenu went
> > for AutoFilter and it is the second most used entry in the Data menu, so it
> > is important that it be not in a submenu.
> 
> It is important that is is easy accessible. It is now since it's at top in
> the submenu.
> Furthermore with the change the first menu will be more cluttered.

It is not as cluttered as most menus as it has 20 items in it, while the sheet
menu has 25 items in it. The menu had 16 items in it before i made changes to
it.

> > > Sheet
> > > Interesting idea..
> > 
> > Yes i wondered what would be the best possible name for it. Any suggestions?
> 
> Not yet, no. But again we face a situation where part of the entries can be
> considered to apply for sheets as well as for different components, I'm
> afraid.

Yes that is always a challenge, so we try to make the best possible that fits
best.

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