[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 91781] Reorganization of the menu bar for Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91781

--- Comment #60 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #56)
> Thanks for explaining.
> I would not be able to think of good name for such a mixed category.
> But I would give preference to the rule to have all items available in the
> menu, over the (arbitrary) limit of 20 items. Esp since those items are at
> the lower side.

Yes i've already added them back and decided to include just footnote/endnote,
bibliography entry and index entry in a submenu titled 'References' and leave
hyperlink and fields in the first level, as those two entries are in the first
level in impress as well.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #57)
> Maybe that is even a better solution.
> But Compare Documents is to use on files with currently no changes tracked
> and Merge Documents is to combine versions with changes tracked.
> And having them separated in the menu, maybe helps people to get the clue.

Both commands would be confusing to regular users if they were taken at face
value, i remember going through a bug report which a user filed as he was going
to Edit > Changes > Comment thinking it was Insert > Comment. If i saw compare
documents, i'd assume it would bring up a dialog and visually display the
differences between the two documents. If i saw merge documents, i'd assume it
would take the contents of one document and merge the other document to its
end. Presently i'm fine either way, moving them both in track changes or having
them both out. One benefit of having them in the submenu is that the main menu
would be two entries smaller, which would be an advantage in writer, but not
that particular in calc.

> I propose to bring it back in a meeting where I can attend.

Look forward to it. We've missed you and Stuart for some time now at the
meetings.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #58)
> There were enough complaints about differences. And currently we look at
> othe applications too. So I would propose to adapt a nuanced view here :)

They definitely werent exactly the same, but the similarities were quite easily
visible. Compare this with WordPerfect, which has a completely different
toolbar layout and quite a different menu. I've tried to be as careful as i can
be by primarily focusing on reorganizing within the same menu more than moving
things to other menus, as i know people like things where they are and prefer
not to relearn. :D

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #59)
> In Calc the print preview is an important place for editing the page
> settings.
> Still, for the close relation to the action of printing, I would think the
> place with File > Print is more natural.

Yes the stats do agree with you, as 71% of users click the 'Format Page' button
in the print preview toolbar over Format > Page in the menu, but that dont
change that it is a way of viewing your document and it is an important view in
calc, as normal/grid view doesnt show you how it will look on a printed page.

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