[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 92657] Questionable Default for Bullet Sizing

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92657

V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote at utsa.edu> changed:

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--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote at utsa.edu> ---
Comments from the Design ML minutes for 2016-12-08...
>  * Bullet lists defaults
>    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92657
>    + Option 1: Replace OpenSymbol as default for bullets by text default
>    + Option 2: Reduce bullet size so that spacing is not affected by symbols
>    + code pointers needed
>    -> no easy hack, needs investigation

-- Khaled --

So what is the actual bug here, the use of OpenSymbol (is this a new
change?) or that line spacing for OpenSymbol changed? If it is the
later, it might be worth seeing if any of the edits to the font over the
years changed its line spacing (I recently did touch them, but just to
unify the various parameters, some of them were obviously broken). It
might also be possible to set the bullet style to have a fixed and very
small line spacing so that it is always smaller than the text font.

I can’t reproduce this issue here; I see no line spacing differences in
the attached document. 

-- Sutart --

The history (and code pointers) on use of OpenSymbol as default font for bullet
lists can be found in this series of OOo issues archived with the Apache
OpenOffice project.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=59997
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=60263
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=63395#c13
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=88261

The OpenSymbol font has had problems with font metrics as can be seen in
i59997, and of course on the LibreOffice side we've also made adjustments with
some work still needed (e.g. tdf#103740).

As noted in c13 of i63395 the 2022, 25e6, 25aa from OpenSymbol were hardcoded
and remain default glyphs for bullet lists. They are unstyled, so will resize
as the paragraph font is resized, but will not otherwise match the font metrics
of the font of the paragraph.

Commit to CVS for OpenOffice
2008/06/06 08:49:04 od 1.50.16.1: #i63395# new default bullet characters and
new default bullet font
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=345d77aa3406c1630270e1459324ed5bf35fff11

But I believe most of the original issues (StarOffice -> OpenOffice, and ww8
import/export filter) are probably no longer valid reasons to not allow more
general font fallback to handle the bullet replacement--but that would need to
be investigated a bit more deeply.

But if that is the case, we could rector the static assignment of OpenSymbol to
bullet lists when paragraph font provides the glyphs and allow them to assert
eliminating these valid spacing issues.

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