[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 98333] Bringing uniformity to styles shortcuts

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98333

--- Comment #15 from Cor Nouws <cno at nouenoff.nl> ---
Hi Jay,

(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #14)

> We have many common shortcut that require two hands to hit that are even
> more basic than stylist or navigator, e.g. Ctrl + P (Print), Ctrl + O
> (Open), Ctrl + N (New). On Mac, users have to use two hands to hit any of
> the Function keys, as they have to press the Fn key as well.

It might be because I use Ctrl+P and Ctr+O quite seldom, or because Ctrl+Shift
asks for a little twist and/combined with the move from my right hand to the
left side of the key board, that for me this has a different weight.

I can't imagine that it is because we get old and grumpy... isn't it, Eike ?

> > Additionally, both features are something that other office suites don't
> > offer and that help to organize the document and its formatting, 
> 
> MS Office has both a stylist
> (http://www.addbalance.com/usersguide/images/stylesFPane2010.gif) and
> navigator (http://www.dkszone.net/editing-in-ms-word-2010-simplified-with),

I never liked that styles window, but maybe it is better now. After all.
MsOffice improves too, as they do with a simple version of the Navigator.

> though not as powerful/extensive as the one found in LO. Both of these tools
> are useful for those who utilize them.

Sure.

> Particular users of all office suites dont know/use styles and having a
> stylist in LO wont change that behaviour. There are users who use styles
> (normally more advanced users) and users who dont use styles (normally less
> advanced users) and that wont ever change unless direct formatting is
> completely eliminated. In the same way, we have users who may use the
> Navigator (advanced users) and users who likely wont (non-advanced users).
> 
> We should make the stylist and navigator available to those who use it, but
> we should avoid assigning them to shortcut keys that are an OS standard for
> something else in order to improve LO integrate with those OSes and reduce
> the learning curve for users. Imagine what users would say if we has
> assigned Ctrl + Z to anything else but undo.

Maybe indeed for new/basic users, good visibility in the Side bar is more
important, yes.

Cheers - Cor

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