[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 105326] UI: Remove the checkboxes in the Option Menu to enable/ disable grid and snap feature in Writer

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105326

Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85 at hotmail.com> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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             Status|NEW                         |RESOLVED
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         Resolution|---                         |WONTFIX

--- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Wait a second. We talked about this and while your opinion is clear others
> agreed with removing the option from a "weird" place (tools > options > ...
> > grid) provided that view > grid > display is not a per document setting
> (based on tools > options). "Weird" because of this confusion: you are not
> sure why the option is doubled unlike menu/toolbar where the replication is
> not a question.

To be clear, kendy having no objection if both locations toggle the same
setting isnt the same as him giving his thumbs up for it. The location isnt
weird as it has been in the options dialog in the OOo days and is new to the
menus in the last 1 year, as i mentioned in the discussion.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> After reading a similar ticket regarding Calc we should make Tools >
> Options... the general setting that defines if helplines are on by default
> and View > ... that toggles it on or off per document. So my proposal is to
> make the View option non-persistent.

Would have been nice if you gave the ticket number, so that bug could have been
checked, but adopting Calc's per document grid/snap functionality into Writer
isnt good and is confusing, especially with its broken functionality (bug
105749) and would require us modify ODF to save these per document settings as
Stuart mentioned. We need to break up the per document settings and the global
settings (bug 105751).

(In reply to Telesto from comment #7)
> At the time when I reported it I wasn't aware aware of the difference
> between Tools > Options > Writer > View (as a general setting) and View >
> Grid Lines (as current setting).

There isnt a difference in Calc but not in Writer.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> Tools > Option should be the default setting when you start the program.
> View > Option toggles this property on/off or vice versa for the current
> session. Nothing has to be stored in a document.

So you are suggesting View change it just for the session and not per document,
as that makes less sense to me.

> Most functionality is
> implemented like this except the gridlines in Writer. The confusion in this
> ticket results from an unclear definition of how those settings are stored.
> Keeping things as they are will not solve it.

The bug started off about removing the option in the options dialog and then
you suggested we keep the option and change the behavior of the View menu
option, which would require quite a lot of work for very little benefit.
Ultimately the confusion to both us and users wont be solved properly until bug
105751 is implemented.

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