[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 106681] Feature Request: Ability to assign character styles to toolbar buttons...

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106681

Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85 at hotmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #27 from Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
It has been my view that a formatting toolbar targeting style users would be a
beneficial feature to have, but unfortunately LibreOffice doesnt currently have
the necessary functionality in place to make it a good/seamless experience,
like what is available with direct formatting. If it did, it could easily be
added as another toolbar layout that advanced users could easily toggle on.

What is possible today is to add some basic paragraph and character styles as
clickable buttons to the formatting toolbar, similar to what Regina made with
the guide, but these buttons wouldnt be toggle buttons, which means that you
couldn't glance at them to know what is being applied. In order to have them as
toggle buttons, UNO commands would need to be created for them and these
commands would need to detect whether the underlying paragraph/character style
is being applied. @Maxim, @Samuel, @Gulsah: Is this something that can easily
be achieved?

When i mentioned the seamless experience above, it was focused on the easy
ability with direct formatting to mix formatting attributes together like bold
+ italics or italics + underline when clicking on the toolbar buttons, while
this wouldnt be possible with the character style buttons, as if text was in
bold (aka strong emphasis) and you wanted to apply italics (aka emphasis) to
that text, it would overwrite bold with italics and not mix the two together as
a new character style. It would be great if LibreOffice had a style-only mode,
where all applied direct formatting was turned into styles, iWork works in this
way i believe.

If there is interest in making this styles-focused formatting toolbar, i'd be
up to brainstorming its creation with those interested in it.

About whether this bug report should stay open, i'd have to agree with Heiko
that it should be closed, as Regina has provided instructions on how to do so
and there isnt much we can/should do to simplify the process of adding
character styles to the toolbars, as bug 88512 is intended to solve the
underlying issue.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12)
> * you can quickly apply styles from the sidebar

Cant say that i agree with this, which is why i've suggested styles be
redesigned - attachment 115020.

> * medium-experienced users can customize the toolbar right now as requested

As none of the paragraph or character styles in the Styles menu appear in the
customization dialog, not sure if a medium-experienced user could do this if
they didnt read this bug report or Regina's wiki.

> * the Notebookbar aims to solve this request perfectly

The notebookbar wont solve this issue in my view.

> * users expect a classic toolbar, which typically has no variability
> * ebook writers might not be the majority of our users (in fact we defined
> Benjamin as our core user -> HIG persona)

Agree.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102946
[Bug 102946] [META] Styles bugs and enhancements
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