[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 106681] Feature Request: Ability to assign character styles to toolbar buttons...

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106681

Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85 at hotmail.com> changed:

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--- Comment #35 from Yousuf Philips (jay) <philipz85 at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to vermontpoet from comment #28)
> Hi Jay, thanks for your detailed response. Makes much more sense. My
> thoughts:

Hi vermontpoet,

> Neither are the menu selections in the side-pane. For now, buttons would
> simply provide quicker and easier access.

The menu selection in the styles & formatting sidebar does provide toggle
behaviour, where you do see which style is currently applied and provides
easier access than toolbar buttons. You dont have to take my word for it, as
i'm not a style users, you can ask pretty much any LO style user, like Cor or
Sophie, or any style user on MSO, as the style management window in MSO hasnt
changed in 25+ years. (
http://shaunakelly.com/wordimages/numbering/bullets2007/AddListBulletStyleToQuickStyleGallery.png
)

> The realization that I can apply
> shortcut keys to character styles greatly alleviates the need for toolbar
> buttons.

The current customization dialog wont allow you to assign/reassign shortcut
keys to paragraph or character styles, as they arent listed in the uno commands
list.

> That said, a basic Ebook toolbar (even if not functionally
> equivalent to direct formatting -- and maybe it shouldn't be --see below)
> would be a first-rate first step

I've create a bug report for the new toolbar (106781).

> Yes and no. The icons don't work in Linux. And where does one find custom
> character styles? 

The issue with custom icons is a recent bug (bug 106784), but for them to
appear by default in a new style formatting toolbar, uno commands for these
buttons would need to be created.

> What this suggests to me is that, eventually, the professional writer and
> Benjamin are going to have to part ways. Maybe in the next decade we'll get
> a WYSIWIG paragraph and character-style based wordprocessor (or sort of
> WYSIWIG Lyx) that uses soft-formatting rather than hard-formatting as its
> primary formatting. Maybe a fork of LO? LO seems to be throwing in its lot
> with Benjamin. Is Benjamin a baby-boomer per-chance?

LO is intended both for Benjamin (a basic user who primarily uses direct
formatting and has little to no knowledge of styles, e.g. my step mother or my
13-year old son) and for Eve (a professional user who primarily creates
style-only documents, e.g. my father who is an author, or my wife who is a
secretary) and everyone in between (e.g. Me, who uses the built in paragraph
styles, but doesnt customize them). Benjamin will uses LO differently than Eve,
but that doesnt mean the LO only caters to Benjamin.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103239
[Bug 103239] [META] Toolbars bugs and enhancements
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