[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 115512] Remove titlebar from UI in case of Gnome

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115512

--- Comment #9 from cranetester <leftcrane at tutanota.com> ---
What if you don't want to use the ribbon? Most users hate it because it
requires way too much mousework. It would mean an unconventional and arguably
inferior user experience for most people.

Also the ribbon is nowhere to be found in the Gnome design guidelines. It's a
not feature that GTK provides out of the box. So the ribbon will actually make
the program fit more poorly into the Gnome desktop than it does now.

And finally, the no-tilebar feature will be solely for Gnome, at it well never
look or function the same as a real headerbar.

Given all that, spending time on developing this particular feature does not
seem wise. What's the benefit? I see only downsides.

If the goal is to integrate with the Gnome desktop, Libre Office could work
with Gnome to develop a CSD library that would allow non-GTK programs to use
real GTK headerbars. It should also work with them to finally create a
*standard* and native replacement for menubars. This would be another library. 

At the moment, the Gnome design team doesn't even provide any sort of UI model
that could replace menubars. So if Gnome wants apps like LO to replace the
tried and tested features, it is Gnome's responsibility to explain how that
might be done. One idea might be a large command pallete with widgets for
various actions and a search interface.


The responsibility for desktop integration should be shared between app
developers and the desktop maintainers. If Gnome pushes a new design then it
should also help developers adopt it. Otherwise, just stick to the traditional
design.

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