[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 126608] Writer: Can't switch to Portrait

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126608

--- Comment #55 from Todd <ToddAndMargo at zoho.com> ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #51)
>
> Hmm, you've had four of the sharpest QA reviewers working on the project
> tell you that you are incorrect. You've received precise examples and
> explanations to enable you to perceive where your usage is not in line with
> function. Yet you still claim there is a bug... at some point folks will
> tell you to move on. Meanwhile the UX facet of why it causes issues is our
> ongoing dichotomy of Direct Formatting vs. Style based authoring. 

That you for helping me make my point.  All those sharp guys did not really
help until Regina took a look.  What they did was give me work arounds, which
were appreciated but not the point of the bug report.  It took Regina to hit
pay dirt.
So I guess five is the magic number.


> Meanwhile examine the behavior of the Status bar indicator of the Page
> style, it is context menu (i.e. r-mouse click) enabled to allow you to
> select from the defined page styles and will display the Name of the page
> style applied to the document page with text cursor focus.  It does not give
> any indication when the style has been modified from its template defaults.
> Open attachment 153099 [details], its view mode should make the page styling
> apparent.

I do understand what you are saying.  But from a users standpoint, you are tell
him that up is down and down is up.  Portrait is Landscape and Landscape is
Portrait.  This is a nightmare for the user.  Do you expect the user to code
directly in XML so he gets what he wants?  The user expects the "Style" pop up
to be the style of the current page and subsequent pages NOT THE WHOLE STINKING
DOCUMENT.  The Style pop up should create a new set of rules in a new or
previously used style.  Styles themselves are a great way of doing this, but
your flow control of styles is what is in question, not the styles themselves.

You have to look at this from the user's standpoint, not the developers.  This
bug report all started with me having to urgently send a customers a document
with mixed Landscape (first page) and Portrait mixed together and I could not
figure out how in the h*** I lost my ability to use Portrait (he accepted
everything is Landscape, fortunately).

 And I am a YUGE fan of LO and a BS in comptuer engineering and an I.T.
professional to boot AND even I could not figure it out.  And googeling it was
no use either.  (I have since wrote up how to do it from myself.)  How in the
world would you expect a standard user to figure it out?  This is why I can't
get anyone to seriously adopt LO, even thought it is a great piece of software.

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