[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 129219] Further refinement of OpenType/Graphite Font features in the “Character” dialogue

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129219

--- Comment #5 from Tobias Hemm <tobiasenthemmt at mailbox.org> ---
Thanks for your quick replies!

@Stuart: You are right, what was said in bug 58941 is basically what I wanted.
There are many great suggestions. I didn’t find that report when I was
searching. And furthermore it is almost impossible to follow by now, as it was
already said. People got lost in incidentals, and the great suggestions from
2013 (!) were "forgotten".

@Heiko: You say:

>> Wouldn't use a tab for it. At least some of the attributes duplicate what we have on the font effects tab. The best solution is to have all options together ... <<

Right, but there are not really duplicates. Consider that the "Small Caps" in
the "Font Effects" tab is not the same as the OpenType feature "Small Caps".
Through the LO function "Small Caps" in the "Font Effects", LO creates fake
small caps. This is not a real OpenType feature. The "All Capitals" is not
really an OpenType feature, too, and could be in one or the other tab – I think
that’s not that important. So all options would be togehter in one tab.

One reason why I would group them and leave not-available ones there is that it
helps to orient. It is confusing if the features are always in a different
place, depending on the font. It’s not that many features after all, as you see
in my demonstration image, so I think all features can stay there. As you said,
maybe we could work with expanders. There were many great solutions in the bug
report 58941.


>> ... as an ordinary user I don't care about open font, and to disable what doesn't apply.<<

I respect your opinion, but I think every user uses different functions, and as
you have your range of use, others have theirs. In my opinion, if "Hyperlink",
"Font Effects" and "Position" have separate tabs, content-wise "Font Features"
deserves one as well. And I, as a more advanced user, don’t care about
Hyperlinks for example. There is also a separate tab for "Highlighting". I
think it’s superfluous. I’ve never used it. But maybe that’s only my opinion.


>> The four column layout is against the HIG ... <<

Ok, that was just a suggestion. You can make two, three, five or seven columns.


>> As this is quite a lot of options we may hide some under expander and use a scrollwindow to show everything in limited space. <<

Maybe, but I think a separate tab that can be scrolled (if necessary) or the
use of expanders would be better, since the features would be quicker
accessible, or we use the following ...


>> Alternatively I could imagine a layout similar to the area fill dialog with buttons that switch between independent options. <<

I can imagine that this would be a good solution, too.


>> But "hidden" to pick just one option from the standard font wouldn't be available under open font then (or we have to duplicate the checkbox there). <<

I don’t understand what you mean.

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