[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 134395] "Ctrl + Enter" Page Break is not acting as true page break

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134395

Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Telesto <telesto at surfxs.nl> ---
Sorry, still two remaining remarks/questions (to get some insight, and adding
an alternative perspective)
1. open attachment 162510
2. Enter a page break, anywhere in the text, directly from the INSERT menu OR
using the shortcut Ctrl + Enter.
3. Sidebar -> Page Styles -> 
4. Right Click Chap 1 Modify
5. Set next style to Chap 2

A. Is this result desired/expected.. I would say no based on comment 3/4.. But
the page break/ manual break difference + page style is not something I really
really understand.. 

B) Has LibreOffice a different conception of a "page break" compared to the
competitors? So is this more or less a issue of terminology. I really associate
page break + style as R. Green initial did. And if this is a common problem
(poll?) it might be wise to 'rename' if this is different compared to
'normal'.. 

For the record: Point to help/tips etc. doesn't help much if someone diverges
from a a common 'golden standard'.. with a kind of "read the f**king manual"
approach (sorry that's what I read between the lines). Does not often convince
me ;-). 
We could define dvorak keyboard position as 'standard' not matching the qwerty
keyboard, because we are convinced  dvorak is just better.. and point to some
help explaining things.. but not sure if people would accept it.. 

We are rather habitual kind (design and ux maybe which the could teach people,
sometimes it works, but often backfires.. ). So conforming/ slowly moving to
different direction/ or renaming (the last with risk of people complaining:
where do I find the page break ;-). However the solution calling it a 'page
break' but only being partial the same thing as commonly accepted is awful
proposition too :-). Which even harder to explaining. The LibreOffice page
break is something else.. Yes you see page breaks from imported DOCX files..
but still not the MS Office kind.. 

So call LibreOffice page breaks for example page holders.. not page breaks..
and insert them with CTRL+ENTER.. Ideally with the MS page break still around..
[Note: I didn't dive into MS Office to deep, so maybe i'm talking non-sense
here :-)]

BTW, can the different kind of page breaks also get a different color, maybe
(Or this to colorful (of course bit problematic for the color blind). And/or
different type of dashes? Instead of only #.

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