[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141452] Rename Tools > Chapter Numbering back to Outline Numbering

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452

--- Comment #9 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #8)
> Current situation might not be a perfect solution, but I don't see a better
> one.

It has already been established that using the name "Chapter" is not an
improvement over the previous name, except perhaps in a few locales.

The better solution is reverting the name to "Outline Numbering".

> For me Regina pointed out the main arguments against a change.

I have explained why Regina's comment is - with respect - quite invalid: Using
"Chapters" makes things unambiguous in English, but unambiguously wrong, which
is worse than the previous state of affairs.

> I read a
> couple of bug reports that came from confusion about outline numbering.

1. With which locales? If they were about French/German/Dutch, then that's a
localization issue.
2. Outline numbering has other causes for being somewhat confusing. See issue
141453.

If there are relevant bug reports, can you please put them online somewhere
(pastebin?) and link to them?

> And I don't see, that a user with - let me say - three different headings in
> a small document with 3 pages says "I don't have real chapters (parts of a
> book) in my document, so I can't use this feature to number the parts of a
> document."

You are assuming the user's attention is already on this feature. It will not
be because of the combination of it being in the Tools menu and it being about
Chapter. You are assuming three things about the user:

1. Believes that the numbering features are to be found outside of Format |
Paragraph (or even the format menu) and outside the Numbering Styles sidebar.
2. Believes they should look for a relevant feature in the Tools menu.
3. Knows that Chapter numbering will apply to sub-chapter-level elements, or in
a chapterless documents.

This is unlikely. If the name is reverted, we will have removed one of the
three required realizations/pieces of information a user must possess.

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