[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 139338] The distinction paragraph <-> Character direct formatting in style inspector seems a kind of pointless

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Tue Jan 12 22:24:37 UTC 2021


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139338

--- Comment #11 from Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #10)
> Ask LibreOffice is about user questions.. This ends up in the area of
> technical questions. At ask people assume things to be this way. Or ask what
> the practical issue is Or give quick fixes (workarounds). 
> 
> So it's misplaced at ask (if you ask me).

No I do not ask you. Ask is for user questions; and this is a user question.
Especially since it focuses on "usefulness", which is a topic exactly fit for
Ask. And no, this is not technical question, since strictly correct and
technical answer about *why* is it so is not good for you.

> FWIW: Enhancement request are no bugs either, if we want be nitpicking. So
> don't belong here. Would belong to UX enhancement request tracker or
> whatever.

Yet another unsolicited off-topic from you. Bugzilla is for what TDF intends
it, not for what you imagine it is for. It is *the* place for enhancements.
Period.

> I'm surely not good at reading technical documentation.

You surely are not. What you're good at is wasting everyone's time.

> 16.30.2 appears to
> be about 'Paragraph Styles (styles!). And text style referencing to
> "character style" (I guess)

Yes. Styles, as defined by ODF, and in ODF, *every* bit of formatting is
implemented using styles, DF being defined also by special kind of styles -
automatic styles. So everything described in 16.30.2 applies to DF.

> The advantage of the (presence of) Paragraph Direct Formatting next to
> Character Direct Formatting being unclear to me.

This is definitely off-topic here. As said, "what is it useful for" is for Ask,
whatever you might think.

> 
> Direct Formatting should not be be distributed around easily. It should be
> reduced to a minimum (without breaking user experience using DF) to make
> working with style a success, IMHO. 
> And distinctions between Paragraph Direct Formatting/ Character Direct
> Formatting kind of subtle (without being visible; making managing even
> harder. You easy distributing DF all over the document without knowing.
> Ruining the user experience of using (paragraph) styles. You need to
> manually scrub all DF. Polluting the XML files with unnecessary (additional)
> DF junk.

More unrelated stuff. Not surprising.

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