[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 145739] Column tab of Table Properties dialog is confusing and frustrating

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Tue Nov 30 22:23:03 UTC 2021


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145739

--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> bug 129639 "Could Not Set Column Width in One Column Table"

That one is about the size change not working, it's not a complaint about the
UI layout; plus it's about a different dialog (Table context menu | Size |
Column Width).

> bug 139096 and bug 139109 with the same issue pointing to bug 114633
> "Setting unevenly distributed columns sizes is hard and cumbersome the
> achieve using Table properties or set width"

That (unclosed) bug it's not about the UI layout per se, but about the
cascading effects of setting one column width on the others - which is not
something I complained about here, although it is certainly frustrating and
related to the UI choices.

> bug 116609 pointing to bug 113960 "Adapting table width by default"

No complaints about the size redistribution policy here. I'd say that's not
even a related issue. Redistributing among the two neighbors is valid logic,
and so is redistributing among all columns.

> bug 100537 "Width and relative checkboxes disabled in Table dialog by
> default with automatic alignment" (resolved NAB)

I didn't complain about that; my concerns are with the Column Widths dialog
_only_.

> I suggest to have only one dialog for the UI redesign.

Do you mean "only one bugzilla bug"? Or do you mean the same dialog reachable
from Table Properties and from the context menu?

> "Adjust table width" is not so unclear, admittedly with some ugly
> dependencies like discussed in bug 145738, 

You've misquoted the label text (which I interpret as another indication of the
problem with this setting). It's labeled "_adapt_ table width". _adjust_ table
width would be just as bad: You only adjust something with a value from a
continuous range, or at least a choice among many settings, while this is a
checkbox - a binary choice.

> and we could also argue to read the help.

You know that saying, "patriotism is the refuge of the scoundrel" :-P ... so,
I'm not saying anything like that, but "read the help" is the refuge of the
flawed UI... a decent UI is such that, for the common use-cases at least,
almost nobody needs to consult the help, because what you need to do is just
obvious.

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