[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 141452] Rename Tools > Chapter Numbering back to Outline Numbering

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Fri Apr 22 08:32:00 UTC 2022


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141452

--- Comment #23 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #21)
> I strongly believe this proposal should be done, and tdf#104151 was badly
> misguided.

So, it seems I'm in rare agreement withe Mike on something :-)

> We have multiple confusion here. ... We have currently just a mess.

Yes, and even when a user figures things out, it's not that they create
coherent notions in their mind; they're still in a situation of "I have to
memorize semi-equivalences on not-intuitively-equivalent concepts, and
what-term-applies-where-and-how".

> Outline is the concept that should be used when the structure (including
> chapters and sections, and applied by the levels in paragraphs) is meant. It
> also must be used in Navigator instead of the "Headings".

Well, either instead of, or separately from, but yes.

> Chapter is only used when first outline level is used (as in ToC's Create
> Index or Table of Contents For - note how the Chapter used there is
> *different* in the meaning from what tdf#104151 assigned it to).

and there isn't a good enough indication that Heading 1 is supposed to be
equivalent to Chapter; nor, in fact, is that a good idea. Most documents people
write don't have Chapters anyway.

> Heading should be used very carefully - to refer to paragraphs having
> outline level applied;

Here we disagree. "Heading" means "paragraph with Heading/Heading N" styles.
That's how the lay user understands it. Paragraph with outline level can be
called something involving the word outline: "Outlines", "Outlined", "Outlined
paragraphs" or whatever.

> and also to refer to Heading N paragraph style - but
> these two uses must be disambiguated in writing.

So, my disagreement above is how I suggest disambiguate.

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