[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 146445] Change behaviour of anchor to character in an empty paragraph (see comment 15)

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146445

Dieter <dgp-mail at gmx.de> changed:

           What    |Removed                     |Added
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                 CC|                            |libreoffice-ux-advise at lists
                   |                            |.freedesktop.org
           Keywords|bibisectRequest, regression |needsUXEval
           Severity|normal                      |enhancement
            Summary|Anchor of image moves to    |Change behaviour of anchor
                   |next paragraph when type    |to character in an empty
                   |Enter key at original       |paragraph (see comment 15)
                   |(empty) paragraph           |

--- Comment #15 from Dieter <dgp-mail at gmx.de> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #13)
> and that means, for empty paragraph, that the
> inserted anchor is *before* ... what? it's before the paragraph end, which
> serves the anchoring point in this case. So when you put a cursor into an
> empty paragraph, it is *after* paragraph start, and *before* paragraph end;
> when you press Enter, you logically insert a "paragraph end - paragraph
> start" pair in the place where your cursor is, moving the existing old
> paragraph end to the following new paragraph; and since that moved paragraph
> end is the anchoring point, the anchored object moves accordingly.

Thank you for your detailed explanation. Just let me rephrase, what I
understand and let me explain, why I still see inconsistency here and a need
for an enhancement:

After inserting an image in an empty document, we have empty paragraph below
document and order within this paragraph is: paragraph start | anchor |
paragraph end
After placing cursor in that empty paragraph we have: paragraph start | cursor
| anchor | paragraph end

Scenario A: press enter => paragraph break between paragraph start and anchor 
=> New empty paragraph before image (so this is, what you explained as expected
behaviour and I can understand it now and therefore I won't consider the
current behaviour a bug)

Scenario B:
Press spacebar (or any character) (Order within paragraph is: paragraph start |
character (with connected anchor to character) | cursor | paragraph end)
Press Enter => New paragraph after the old paragraph and anchor to character is
still part of the old paragraph (Expected)

So I think we can reduce problem to the question: To what should we anchor an
anchor to character, if there is no character inside
a) paragraph start => with cursor we have order: paragraph start | anchor |
cursor | paragraph end (I would prefer this solution)
b) paragraph end => with cursor we have order: paragraph start | cursor |
anchor | paragraph end (current behaviour)
c) Not possible to have anchor to character in an empty paragraph

So let me give some resons for solution a)
1. Consisteny I: If we have anchor to (an empty) paragraph order seems to be:
paragraph start | cursor | anchor (to paragraph) | paragraph end
2. Consistency II: Similar behaviour in an empty paragraph and in a paragraph
after inserting a character.
3. User expectations: If there is an image with an empty paragraph below and
user presses enter we can assume, that he would like to insert a new paragraph
below the empty paragraph and not above the image (this is at least what he
sees as a result).

So I would see it as enhancement, I've changed bug summary and added
design-team for additional input.

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