[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 135501] Change the default UI (see comment 67)

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Wed May 11 16:25:37 UTC 2022


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135501

--- Comment #85 from Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from bug 148967 comment #35)
> the team facilitates the work around LibreOffice. The
> ESC usually gives favorable consideration to my recommendations, which I
> take from user input, done at bug 135501. So I plan to change it (affects
> new installation only).

Hmm. I read the discussion here, and find that the "user input, done at bug
135501" shows the prevail of negative feedback to the idea of making
notebookbar the default (in its current condition, or at all) (V Stuart Foote
in comment 3; ajlittoz in comment 81; andreas_k in  comment 78; Eyal Rozenberg
in comment 73, Telesto in comment 69, Samuel Mehrbrodt in comment 62, ...
stopped scrolling up), which is voluntarily ignored because of a few vocal
users tend to answer every post, creating massive amount of "feedback" (look at
the responses to the mentioned comments). I don't claim that this reflects the
whole user base opinion; just that we should not consider the feedback received
*here* as justification of a "do change" decision (which seems to be the case
based on the quote above).

Repeating myself from that bug:

Note that such a decision should at least depend on the availability on
mnemonics (keyboard access) working with such a UI; e.g., when a menu is used
(which is active with toolbar UI), you may use F10 (Alt) to access menu without
mouse. Competition had never offered a UI without keyboard access to its
commands. Also note that keyboard shortcuts (Customization) is unrelated here:
what is required is keyboard-based navigation through the visible UI.

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