[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 149018] "Object" property dialog (and Navigator and UI elements) should be titled "Embedded Object"

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Thu May 12 21:41:52 UTC 2022


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149018

--- Comment #12 from sdc.blanco at youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #8)
> the distinction between linking and embedding will be really crucial to the
> usage for some people; and when they will be confused, unsure if the term
> means that what they thing "linked" is termed "embedded", they would be
> really lost
Ok -- will assume that this hypothesis is valid for now....

---but a few questions and comments to clarify the situation.

1. Afaict, only one small corner of Insert -> OLE Object involves an external
link, where all other uses of Insert > OLE Object result in what we are
presently calling an "embedded object".  Right?

Even when an external file is chosen ("Create from file"), it is only "linked"
if "Link to file" is chosen.  

The proposal in comment 11 to make a "Linked Object" dialog was motivated by my
misunderstanding that all OLE objects were a "Linked Object".

It seems inappropriate to make a special dialog for OLE Objects, when most of
the uses are embedding.

2. This (potential) confusion or uncertainty about linked/embedded is already
addressed in the documentation.  See "Link to file"

https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/shared/01/04150100.html

If there are other places where it would be appropriate to mention, then I can
add them.

3.  Meanwhile, as a different issue, there is no way afaict (e.g, in Properties
dialog or Navigator) to see if an OLE object is linked or not. (and Edit >
External Links does not identify the object name).  (not a complaint, just an
observation, and a thought that this might be a bigger problem for users than
the "embedded" label in the Properties dialog.)  

4. The proposal in comment 11 might still be usable (if it seems an
improvement), but now with "OLE Object" included in the Embedded Objects
submenu, otherwise, comment 5 still seems valid.

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