[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 156795] Avoid using typesetter language "widow" and "orphan"

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Thu Aug 17 19:28:54 UTC 2023


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156795

--- Comment #14 from Mike Kaganski <mikekaganski at hotmail.com> ---
(In reply to Kazinator from comment #13)
> > Please! The OP in tdf#156109 had *never* asked for a rename. They may have
> > absolutely no desire to rename these; you don't even know, maybe they would
> > *oppose* this new idea. But you effectively destroy that request. It would
> > be OK to close it WF if so decided - but this action masks, hides the
> > request; in the end, it could pretend to *implement* that request...
> > 
> > Please do not!
> 
> I am that OP, and that is not true. I share the exact opinion of the OP of
> this bug. Somewhere in #156109, I wrote these words, which are exactly the
> topic of this item:
> 
> Kazinator> Orphan and Widow are some kind of typesetting jargon whose
> metaphor not 
> Kazinator> everyone might understand[.]

The point was not that you will *definitely* oppose. The point was: that bug
was about a *different* thing. We *should never* merge bugs like that: even
now, when you wrote that you agree with this bug, your original one does not
become a dupe of this one: they have different ideas. In other words: in a
year, someone comes, who agrees with, say, tdf#156795, but disagrees with
tdf#156109. As long as such a scenario is possible, these are *different* bugs;
with a potential of *different* further destiny (e.g., one might get
questioned, discussed, reverted at some point, while another could stay). So
*they are NOT "the same topic"*. And merging them creates havoc, makes bugzilla
unmanageable. Thinking that merging them keeps bugzilla "neat" destroys its
value as a tool of tracking ideas, bugs, and so on.

Please note, that at no point I disagree with either of the ideas myself - I'm
actually neutral. I only post data points that I know, like the Word
screemshot, or the (false) memory of a setting needed for the dialog tooltip ;)

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