[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 153499] Index Entry dialog needs UI/HIG review

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153499

--- Comment #13 from sdc.blanco at youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #12)
> My concerns are...
(perhaps off-topic) - an attempt to address these concerns...

> that we name heading level now outline level 
"heading level" never existed as a meaningful concept in LO, so no change is
being made from "heading level" to "outline level".  

It is highly likely that users/help writers/etc. have informally collapsed
"heading" and "outline level" into a phrase like "heading level", but that is
not a justification for such usage in the UI (including tooltips) and help
pages. The point of bug 152605 is only to remove the few instances where
"heading level" appears.

> and use outline for the hierarchy 
I have not seen any proposal for doing that. 

As you noted (Bug 152605, comment 19), the term "outline" is confusing. 
I propose/plan to use the phrase "heading structure" (as a more neutral phrase)
to refer to documents that use headings with different outline levels.  

So far I have not seen any case in "help" or "tooltips", in relation to PS,
TOC, index, caption numbering, chapter/heading numbering where it is necessary
to use "outline" or "hierarchy". It seems an advantage (in UI and help) to
avoid terms like "outline" and "hierarchy", which are likely to have different
meanings to different persons.

> but introduce another level for indexes. 
Nothing is being "introduced".  Rather the discussion here (comment 4, comment
11) highlights that "index level" already exists, but it has become apparent
that this term can (should) be better indicated in the UI and help.  

As comment 5 illustrates there are serious confusions (in existing help pages)
about the relation between index level and outline level, where the hope is
that better UI labels and help pages will improve the situation.

> It would been more clear if outlines might have heading and index levels
What would be more clear?  when you write "heading level", do you mean "outline
level"?  Does "outline" mean "heading structure"?  If so, then what you request
already exists.  (can elaborate if needed)

@Mike -- thanks for the "off the top of my head". As noted in comment 12 it
confirms a central and critical point that "index level" and "outline level"
are different, and more generally confirms (or indicates) important issues to
be documented in help.

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