[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [Bug 155839] When propmpted about missing hyphenation data - I should be offered a download link

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Fri Jun 16 21:58:44 UTC 2023


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155839

--- Comment #9 from Eyal Rozenberg <eyalroz1 at gmx.com> ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #3)
> There might be some *narrow* set of cases where LibreOffice
> could know that *its own* distribution includes these

This is what I would expect. The thing is, that if an app is telling you "I am
missing FOO for locale LOC", your assumption as a user is that FOO is a part of
the app, but distributed separately for different locales; and that you have
likely neglected to also install FOO for LOC along with LO itself. Third-party
extension and such would not make the app present a notification bar.

> - but again: it needs
> to know how to install these: on Windows, it would need admin to initiate
> modification of existing installation; on Linux, each distro would have own
> command and own package name for those... 

Ok, so it would need admin privileges, that's doable. Or it would need
per-distribution customization - also doable, with the default suggesting the
user seek a package for their distribution. And the version we let people
download from our servers will be appropriately customized to download packages
from our servers.

> But *in general*, the problem of
> knowing how to obtain a random fo-BAR language that user tagged their
> hyphenated text with is unsolvable.

So, not the general problem, just the problem of obtaining a very specific FOO
for LOC. If there are other options for it - that's "not our problem" for the
purposes of this notification bar. Or - a secondary button, "Learn More", could
mention other options/sources/ideas. i.e. what we offer now is the other
possibility for users to pursue, but the default one should just be to download
the patterns.

> It is a warning that the document looks differently. It is not an error
> (like "the file is corrupt"), but still something needing to "draw user's
> attention to".

If it said that, it would be one thing. But LO is telling you its missing
something, and hinting that it is missing a piece of itself.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Rather than forwarding to a hopefully up-to-date wiki we could show the list
> of extension directly (same as tools > options > language > writing aids:
> Get more dictionaries online...).

I agree with Mike - we should not refer user to extensions, certainly not in
this situation; and If LO knows about it beforehand, then it's not an
extension.

Also, and even more importantly - if you can find the list, then - don't show
any list, rather, on button press, let's just download and install the relevant
file. I just don't understand the insistence on not doing that or the claim
that we can't.

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