[Bug 157064] Allow customization of the text reference style(s) from the bibliographic entry

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=157064

Heiko Tietze <heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org> changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze <heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org> ---
(In reply to Lucas from comment #5)
> I looked into that and drafted a proposal to start this conversation.
Awesome! Great work.

I read over the text and collect some idea. Please don't take any of these as a
No, it's just what comes in mind while reading.

2.1 Support to Author-Year bibliographic styles is desirable
- and probably other styles as well
2.2 Support for back references is desirable
- isn't this solved with the alphabetical index? I've never seen a combination
with the bibliography
2.3 Support for hyperlink styles is desirable
- "different colors for hyperlinks" - why would we need that? if it comes to
different styles, ie. when to underline, sure
2.4 Better support for non-paged media, laws and regulation is desirable
- isn't it a violation of references if you bloat the bibliography with no
inline reference?
2.5 Better support for external bibliographic databases is desirable
- desirable yes, but comments on
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2018/12/19/save-the-bibliography/
suggest to have at least a basic implementation 
2.6 Better presentation of bibliography in the dialog combos
2.7 Bibliographic support on Presentations and Drawings is also desirable

3.1 At its core, the bibliography is just an index not unlike the table of
contents
- absolutely true, and perhaps we should start with this idea 
3.2 Index management and bibliographic formatting can be easily separated
3.3 An advanced internal bibliographic database may be overkill and unnecessary 
- see 2.5; in theory we could just let Zotero and co handle all bibliography
(IIRC they require Java)

4.1 Separate the index from formatting through an HTTP API
- nice to have but unlikely the needed solution for 2.5; you give hints when
it's not appropriate
4.2 The formatting will happen in the “Add/Edit Entry” dialog


I think we should create a test document what Zotero and co would do, and try
to make this happen with internal methods. If we then consider to enhance it
with, for example, external/online sources nothing stops us (but I'd still
prefer to let 3rd party tools handle the advanced use case).

At least two of the many tickets regarding the bibliography discuss the topics
from the UX POV (and I tagged it as need to add a mockup). Would be bug 153350
and bug 121958.

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