[Bug 162133] Tab stop of list contents increases then decreases in Roman numeral lists. Should be right-aligned.

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Thu Jul 25 18:21:43 UTC 2024


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162133

--- Comment #9 from Justin L <jluth at mail.com> ---
Based on the work I did in LO 7.6 for bug 106988...

The poor look for Roman Numerals does happen using LO's default font
(Liberation size 12 font). However, using a different font (Carlito at 11pt –
which is basically identical in size to Microsoft Office’s default use of
Calibri 11pt), then Roman numbering fits.

It quickly became evident that setting “good defaults” could only apply to
entire lists – which consists of the list styles, and the locale-defined
outlines. That is because these two categories define indenting/spacing for the
ENTIRE LIST allowing all 9 sublevels to have uniform, aesthetic spacing.
However, the testing in this report is not being done by setting an outline
style. It is being done by changing only ONE LEVEL! That tool simply changes
one type of numbering (which already has formatting) into another type. It
would be incorrect to start changing the spacing or alignment formatting in
this context, because then that level will be misaligned from its sublevels,
and potentially destroy user-specified settings.

Humans generally want left-aligned or fully justified text content, so forcing
right-aligned Roman numerals is usually not acceptable. The entire list needs
to be designed well to accommodate right-alignment. Microsoft implicitly
acknowledges this, since their graphic shows left-aligned Roman numerals.
Despite this, Microsoft Office forces right alignment for Roman numerals, often
with horrible results. So, forcing right or left alignment is a bad idea, and
we should not follow Microsoft’s lead in this situation.

Lists are complicated, and it is a mistake to try to over-simply them. We give
the user nice, predefined outline choices, as well as a tool to easily adjust a
level’s numbering type, but it is ultimately the user’s responsibility to
customize the list according to their own arbitrary tastes.

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