[Bug 161258] Default to enabling full RTL-CTL, CJK support (as in Tools|Options|Languages|General) when can't confidently determine otherwise

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Wed Jun 12 11:36:29 UTC 2024


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161258

Stéphane Guillou (stragu) <stephane.guillou at libreoffice.org> changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) <stephane.guillou at libreoffice.org> ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #4)
> I'm not suggesting that support for RTL-CTL and CJK be _always on_; I
> suggest that the _default_ be on. That is, instead of applying a heuristic
> for verifying it needs to be turned _on_, the heuristic will check whether
> we need to turn it _off_. And only if we're sure it can safely be turned off
> - it will.
> In other words, the "gray area" will be decided in favor of enabling support.
Right, I understand better now, and I think that makes sense.

> I will assume you meant to say "is not ideal, period".
Yes, sentence should have stopped there.

> ... ah, perhaps you actually did mean that a western-centric default is
> ideal, after all?
As Mike said, that's quite unfair. But I appreciate you taking that back.

> Nearly half the people of the world live their lives using more than one
> kind of written language, typically their native one, and some West-European
> language - English, French or Castillian mostly. That's true for most of
> Africa and Asia (including Russia, although Cyrillic can't currently benefit
> from the dialog being split.)
> [...] If we
> can't say for sure whether the user only uses Western languages or not - we
> should split the dialog, rather than requiring the user, especially the
> newbie user, to have to locate the appropriate LO language option to be able
> to work.
> 
> To reiterate: Minor inconvenience for westerners must not trump major
> inconvenience to non-westerners.
Thanks for spelling it out. As said above, I think it makes sense, but I'll now
leave it to UX and developers to decide whats preferable and technically
feasible.

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