[Bug 160735] Change any style from a single window

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Tue May 28 06:27:41 UTC 2024


https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160735

--- Comment #4 from grishka at zaclys.net <grishka at zaclys.net> ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)

Thank you for this dialogue, Heiko.

> There is no such thing as non-hierarchical styles, or rather if you neglect
> the hierarchy and put every style on the top level it has a consequence. The
> typical hierarchy is Default > Text Body | Quotation, and changing the font,
> for example, from Serif to Sans on Default affects all (unchanged) styles
> below.

My proposal does not at all call into question the hierarchy of styles. When I
create a new style, it always respects the hierarchical structure of
Libreoffice. 
The style editing dialog box also contains everything you need to create a
style while respecting the hierarchy: you can already choose the inheritance
style. I only want to add entries: "create a new style" or "modify an existing
style" from this window.

> 
> The proposed generic style management dialog might sound as a solution but
> violates the KISS principle and contradicts the actual power of style
> hierarchy.

Today, the configuration of the style is unrelated to the creation of the new
style. Precisely, my proposal simplifies the approach: creating a new style
from the dialog box allows you to centralize style management. My approach is
more KISS, than this way of forcing us to go back and forth between the FOUR
style menus (menu tab, right click, properties in sidebar, styles in
sidebar...) and the style management dialog (in which you can do everything...
except simply create a new style!).

I note that it is already possible to open a new window to modify the parent
style. It would be a contradiction to KISS logic if we follow you!

> 
> Plus, you shouldn't have to modify styles a lot. Even with a couple of
> modifications it's something that could be done once and saved as template.

I believe that a minimum of courtesy is in order: who are you to estimate the
use that users make of the software? ;)

I use models: that is not the question. Besides, I like to modify them over
time.

But both for personal and professional matters, I have many and varied
projects. I adapt my hierarchy of styles to these projects (sometimes once, so
no need for a model). So even if it doesn't suit you, I change my styles a lot
(And no, I'm not confusing Writer with DTP, I use Scribus for this type of
project)..

Modifying the different existing styles and creating two or three new styles
with clear names for me, in one go from the dialog box, would simply save us
time.

> 
> I'm against adding a new dialog.

The proposal is not a new dialog box, it is an enrichment of the existing
dialog box. The idea is to fully manage the styles from this single box which
already exists.

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