[Libreoffice] [PATCH] fdo#31251 - Improve default page layout
Sébastien Le Ray
sebastien-libreoffice at orniz.org
Mon Apr 18 23:51:52 PDT 2011
Le Mon, 18 Apr 2011 23:53:56 +0200,
Christoph Noack <christoph at dogmatux.com> a écrit :
> Hi Sébastien, all!
>
> Am Montag, den 18.04.2011, 22:47 +0200 schrieb Sébastien Le Ray:
> > Le Sat, 16 Apr 2011 15:08:23 +0200,
> > Christoph Noack <christoph at dogmatux.com> a écrit :
> [...]
> > > Am Samstag, den 16.04.2011, 15:01 +0200 schrieb Sébastien Le Ray:
> > > > Le Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:58:46 +0200,
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > @ Sébastien: Would it be possible that you'll have a look how
> > > > > it is implemented. Any chance that we - as Thomas mentioned -
> > > > > get this streamlined throughout the applications?
> > > >
> > > > Yes I'm gonna check this out… [...]
> > >
> > > I don't think so ... last time we discussed that at OOo, the
> > > shadow improvements were related to Renaissance. And the
> > > Renaissance project explicitly addressed Impress (and Draw, since
> > > it is based on the very same code base). So we may have some
> > > further benefit with Writer :-)
> >
> > I looked at sd code, they've done mostly what I planned to do. As I
> > previously said, impress/draw and writer code differs on a design
> > point of view so I cannot reuse it as is.
>
> Okay, so the only chance it to let it look similar.
>
> > We've a 4 sided shadow, should I port it Writer as is or are their
> > request of improvment? Should I let the color configuration option
> > for shadow color and use the value under draw or just drop it?
>
> Not an easy answer, so a step-by-step approach ... easy to tough
> questions:
> * Their shadow looks very good (what I could see in my VM) -->
> It would already be an improvement to "copy" it to Writer (just out
> of curiousity: how did they implement them - masks, bitmaps
> with alpha channel, ...)
They used a simple bimap. Their approach is more or less the same as
the first implementation I did (when no color configuration was
possible), except they just use one bitmap that they split at
predefined positions instead of having one bitmap per side/corner.
>
> * The shadow color configuration might be dropped --> At least
> if we can find a shadow that works well on most backgrounds (e.g.
> finding an appropriate color, or calculating the shadow based
> on the application background color - preferred). That would save
> users a bit effort and help the translation / documentation
> teams as well.
>
I guess the current impress shadow should be nice on any background
since there is an alpha channel and no area has a full opacity…
> * Anyway, it would be good to have a bit more control how the
> shadow was created, because we might need matching shadows for
> other objects (e.g. Notes, Panes, ...) --> I think, the
> specification we've started is a good basis, so do you think
> we can continue with that (see my note below, please). I just need
> to know what graphics we can use to realize good effects at
> the document edges (see my last mail).
I can't find the mail about the document corners… I attached you the
bitmap used in impress to draw the shadow.
>
> * A more attractive document background is still desirable -->
> can we go with a gradient in the next step?
I think we'll have to test how gradients can be used to get a nice
background. Keeping in mind that current gradient implementation
focuses on performances rather than on quality…
>
> Note: During the weekend, I've started to redo some of the graphics
> for the specification page - but I haven't uploaded them yet. At the
> moment, some further (independent) thoughts led to a shadow that's
> very close to the Impress one.
>
> Sorry for the many questions / comments - but I'd like to understand
> more what's needed and how a solution might look like that's
> comfortable (so to say) to implement.
>
> As always - thanks in advance :-)
I'll try to quickly implement and push impress shadow to sw so you can
see the result throught the nightlies
>
> Cheers,
> Christoph
>
Regards,
Sébastien
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