[Libreoffice] minutes of tech steering call ...

[Michael Meeks]

Present:
	+ Norbert, Mitch, David, Kendy, Andras, Michael,
	  Caolan, Rainer, Bjoern, Fridrich, Petr

* Completed Action Items
        + implementing vertical text with Cairo (Caolan)
        + manual / wiki page for using nightlies (Rainer)
        + windows snapshot builds are really old (Fridrich)
		+ kicking it again
		+ lots of dependency problems
			- switch to single CPU build
        + Submit the suggested papers ... (All)
		+ Caolan
                        + Writer internals cf. FOSDEM ? (with Cedric)
                        + Security / testing infrastructure / work
                + Bjoern
                        + gbuild - why / how / get involved
        + ask Matus to look into gnumake4 CWS ... (Michael)
	+ gnumake4 CWS merge to master (Bjoern)
		+ builds & runs nicely
		+ subsequenttests not looking so good
		+ incremental builds should be faster
        + read the gettext patch again (Michael)
		+ looks good, no explanation for flakiness, perhaps threads ?
        + have a look at header wrap bug: 39155 (Kendy)
		+ behavioural change for compat, requires more thought

* Pending Action Items:
        + review Norbert's updated C app (Kendy, Tor)
	+ mail bugzilla query wrt. regression to dev list (Caolan)
        + easy hacks - completion / fixing (Bjoern)
        + in-progress: get SmartArt into master feature (Thorsten)
	+ in-progress: create QA mailing list (Rainer)
	+ conference papers:
                + http://conference.libreoffice.org/submit-your-paper/
                + Michael
                        + meet the ESC panel ...
                        + status report for the last year's work ?
                + Mitch
                        + feedback from a new C++ extension author
                + Francois
                        + making LibreOffice easier to port
                + Cedric
                        + GSOC update - double-slot
                        + what's next in writer
		+ Norbert:
			+ onegit / tinderbox
        + enable on-line updates for QA for dailies ... (Kendy)
        + create / re-use wiki page how to contact other teams for more
          complex features "proposals" (Petr)
        + go through the not-yet-fixed Most Annoying 3.4 bugs, and see
          how many of them are / are not in 3.3.x already (Rainer)

* misc technical / process decisions
        + one git migration timeline / plans (Norbert)
		+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/One_Git_Conversion#planning
		+ update will happen Monday: 3 weeks from now
		+ August 8th - a new git repo to clone ...
        + Python 3 support
		+ cf. list discussion: prefered method to ship
		  internal python3 on mac.
	+ QA test vector / input for calc / mdds update (Kohei)
		+ matrix formulae need heavy testing for 3.4.2(rc2) if possible
		+ mdds migrated to git to allow branching in future
	+ developer / build instructions: pointing at the wiki ? ... (Norbert)
AA:		+ clarify the instructions to point more at the wiki (Norbert)
AA:		+ get Norbert access for the developer web-page / CMS (Michael)

* Releng bits (Petr)
        + 3.4.2 status
		+ tag for rc2 on Tuesday, builds are being up-loaded,
		  on pre-release http server.
AA:		+ pre-announce for QA (Petr)
		+ plenty more scope for fixing bugs in 3.4.3 (due in ~one month)
	+ 3.3.4 schedule error being fixed: moving closer in.
	+ 3.5.x schedule reminder
		+ four months or less until feature freeze

* QA update (Rainer)
AA:	+ release notes for 3.4.2 rc1 39277 - (Petr)
	+ more users starting to help out with bugs (much appreciated)
		+ situation / backlog improving
		+ encouraging growth & progress in QA
        + don't know how many of the Most Annoying are new in 3.4
		+ perhaps the most interesting piece of data
	+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/RBd/Workbench/Recommend_Upgrade_from_3.3.3_to_3.4.2
		+ difficult to get a clear view
		+ categories & sampling to detect regressions or not ?
		+ prefer to use the most annoying as a proxy.

* Questions ?


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