[Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...

[Cedric Bosdonnat]

Hi all,

Sorry, I couldn't join yesterday. I'm just wondering where the
reviewboard action item went? is that a dropped idea or does it still
deserves some action?

On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 18:13 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Attending:
> 	Thorsten, Andras, Kendy, Norbert, Christian, Petr,
> 	Rainer, David, Bjoern, Kohei
> 
> * AA's done
> 	+ announce new 4.0 wiki page (blog going live today) (Bjoern)
> 	+ write list of things that suck for newcomers with taste (Mitch / Christian)
> 	+ write up a time-based release rational (Italo mostly did it for Michael)
> 	+ move all 'feature' bugs to new "most annoying for 3.5" bug (Petr)
> 		+ list mailed with the number etc.
> 	+ Petr to decide and come up with a static link of key bugs (Petr)
> 		http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria
> 	+ come up with a concrete single-git-repo plan (Norbert, Kendy)
> 		+ do the surgery at 3.4.2 time when merging is over (ish)
> 	+ generate a preferred date for a point-two release (Petr, Bjoern, David)
> 
> * AA still pending:
>         + research when gio came into widespread being (Caolan)
>                 cf. http://www.gtk.org/download-linux.html
>         + the rdb setup stuff is still too cumbersome (Bjoern)
> 	+ get SmartArt into master as an experimental feature (Thorsten)
> 	+ investigate reviewboard and come up with a more concrete proposal (Bjoern)
> 	+ post single-git-repo plan to the dev list (Norbert)
> 
> * Agenda:
> 	+ Action items
> 	+ 3.4 release status (Petr)
> 		+ RC1 going out ~now
> 		+ large number of annoying bugs fixed
> 		+ basic functionality is working well for users
> 		+ RC2 / final next week
> 	+ chasing tripple reviews for patches for 3.4.0
> 		+ be great to broaden our reviewer base
> 	+ TSC call time ...
> AA:		+ 14:00 UTC - the new consensus time (get it right next time)
> 	+ QA update / most annoying bug skim (Rainer)
> 		+ where should bugs live ? links to other tracking systems
> 			+ bugs should be in freedesktop bugzilla where possible
> 			+ sometimes good to have triage via up-streams ?
> 		+ lots of co-workers doing great work, testing happening
> 		+ responsiveness improving
> 	+ investing in gnumake / Lanedo
> 		+ no objections at all.
> 	+ 3.5 / schedule alignment with desktop cadence
> 		+ should sync with majority of distros & D/T S/W
> 			+ and release 2-3 months before them
> 			+ so distributions pick up x.y.2 or x.y.3
> 		+ 2-3 months before
> 			+ Freeze Dec / June
> 			+ release mid Feb / mid Aug
> 		+ June is too soon to freeze for 3.5
> 			+ so skip to Dec instead
> 		+ schedule allows for QA over holidays
> AA:		+ fill out the wiki with the proposed post-3.4 schedule (Petr)
> AA:	+ look into a plan for notifing of package updates (Thorsten, Kendy)
> 	+ Mitch / Christian's list of things that suck (Christian)
> 		+ multiple git repositories pain (being fixed)
> 		+ make crashing (make bug ~fixed)
> 		+ used to developing on a branch & testing first
> 		+ problems with waiting for a full clean build before commit
> 			+ delay, and waste of time often outweighs benefits
> 			+ understandable some cross-platform problems
> 		+ incremental building problems: cause much build grief
> 			+ update, and build fails: can be just dependency breakage
> 			+ gnumake again can help fix this.
> 		+ module filenames (cryptic, windows names)
> 			+ split modules with numeric prefixes - to help compilers
> 			+ should have human-readable source file names
> 			+ classes always used together - can make sense together
> 		+ autogen is triggering when new downloads needed
> 			+ even so old-style make dependency problems around
> 		+ namespaces painful: com::sun:star:: ... cluttering header files
> 			+ planned to fix for 4.0
> 
> * Next time:
> 	+ continue most-annoying things discussion (Mitch)
> 	+ own extensions repository  (Rainer)
> 	+ discussion concerning discussion concerning
>           future of our bug tracking System (Rainer)

-- 
Cédric Bosdonnat
LibreOffice hacker
http://documentfoundation.org
OOo Eclipse Integration developer
http://cedric.bosdonnat.free.fr