[Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] Improving the QA and Release for 3.5

[Rob Snelders]

No those days aren't the only way to test. But it is a way to get more 
people to test the software and to test the software in ways that the 
developers won't think about.
I think there are enough people that want to help but don't know how, 
and testing is a easy way to step in.

At last I also hear from people around me that LO tests way to little 
because of all the bugs that have pleaged the 3.4-series. When we shout 
this around people can see we do test and are doing our best to get 
bugs out of the software.

All in all I would say it is needed to organise these events..

Greetings,
Rob Snelders

On di 22 nov 2011 20:03:33 CET, Petr Mladek wrote:
> Cor Nouws píše v So 19. 11. 2011 v 16:56 +0100:
>> Cor Nouws wrote (13-11-11 21:20)
>>> Rainer Bielefeld wrote (11-11-11 20:06)
>>
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Improving_QA-Release-3.5
>>
>>>> I'm afraid "Try to get more testers doing the testing earlier" will be
>>>> the critical/limiting condition.
>>>> [...]
>>>
>>> The idea here is the following:
>>> When a beta is announced, many people jump in to test. Now it would be
>>> great if we could attract (part of) that group to start working with the
>>> developer builds asap after feature freeze!
>>> (Arrows #1 on slide 23)
>>>
>>> Would that make sense?
>>
>> So, while at our 4th Dutch LibreOffice (Hackers) event, we discussed this.
>> Since in The Netherlands we have both a busy Sinterklaas fest and a long
>> Christmas time, and we are already in the end of November, there is
>> little change in organising a successful test-event in December,
>> Anyway not for us.
>> A test-event, was one of the ideas from the presentation (1), slide #24
>>
>> So we think about January 21, convenient for all involved here.
>> But looking at the release plan, that is just after the RC1 for 3.5.0.
>> Which is sad, because the goal is to get more people test early, thus
>> after the first/second build after feature freeze...
>>
>>    - Would it be an idea to work parallel in some countries (France,
>> Germany)...?
>>    - January 21 is a possibility..
>>    - But another moment earlier too, so that some of us (Nl/Flanders)
>> could join virtual?
>
> Heh, the first beta should be available on December 9. I hope that we
> could do lots testing already in December.
>
> We should not need an exact date to do some testing. We are improving
> the Limus server [1] and fill reasonable test cases there.
> We will create test run when the beta1 is available. Anyone could jump
> in and process few tests when time permits. The server will clearly show
> what was tested, what still needs testing. Testers could work completely
> independently.
>
> Organized events are fine but it can be done other way. We do not need
> to depend on them.
>
> IMPORTANT: We are looking for people creating test cases[2].
>
>
> Reference:
>
> [1] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Litmus
>      https://tcm.documentfoundation.org/
> [2] http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Case
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Petr
>
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