[Libreoffice] minutes of tech. steering call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Oct 6 09:57:23 PDT 2011

+ Present:
	+ Thorsten, Andras, Michael M, Stephan, Tor, Rainer,
	  Mitch, Norbert, Kendy, Michael S, Bjoern, Caolan, Petr

+ Completed
	+ add ABI related re-factoring plans to wiki [ on going / indeterminate ]
	  at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
	+ update openSymbol with version gap & checks (done by Julien Nabet)
	+ hide virus/trojan warnings with XOR mangling for unit tests (Caolan)
	+ add C++ cross-compile ABI change issue to release 4 wiki page (Kendy)
	+ download page recommends stale version (Thorsten)

+ Pending Action Items
        + default to TM safe (non-TDF) branding (Thorsten)
        + enable on-line updates for QA in cross-compiled dalies ... (Kendy)
        + publicise our list of ODF proposals / extensions [ in progress] (Thorsten)

* Agenda items
        + pending action items
	+ Andras's new MSI packaging approach (Andras/Tor)
		+ motivation - make Windows installer simpler
		+ existing install process has two->three steps, pre-installer,
		  setup.exe, MSI and is not localizeable
		+ hack week: created multi-language single MSI for installation
		+ why not use it before ? no MSI install at all before (Tor)
			+ should not be an issue anymore
		+ the setup.exe level - could pass params to setup installer
			+ old switches can be mapped to std. msiexec switches
AA:		+ add l10n improvements to 3.5 release notes (Andras)
AA:		+ adding l10n code is currently done by pair of VB Scripts
		  would need to grok & port these to a better tool. (Andras)
AA:		+ default to Andras' new MSI building method when this is
		  documented (Andras)
	+ release mgmt bits (Petr)
		+ nothing much new happening, 3.4.4 RC1 freeze is one
		  week after the conference
		+ few more most annoying bugs to be looked at
		+ looking forward to discussing 3.5 schedule at conference
	+ introduction (Michael Stahl)
		+ at Sun/Oracle for four years, part of writer + framework team
		+ experience of RDF meta-data (not in such a useful state yet
		  sadly - no copy/paste support of that), writer undo/redo,
		  removed old/obsolete/duplicated stuff, document properties
		  re-implementation, redland module, lots of bug fixes,
		  gbuild on OS/X + Solaris etc.
		+ great to have Michael on board at RedHat, plan to poke at
		  the area of change-tracking, and other issues in writer.
	+ ESC composition - update it in Paris ?
	+ QA update (Rainer)
		+ business as usual
		+ concern wrt. lots of bugs untouched for months
		  2.3k waiting for review
		+ bug report assistant
			+ few issues being kindly unwound by Loic
			+ but getting more reports since it was created
				+ missing operating-system detection,
			+ way better overall for end users.
		+ need better co-ordination with the ~10 active QA guys.
AA:		+ come up with a list of QA heros for next meeting (Rainer)
	+ gbuild multi-repo support (Bjoern)
		+ quests through every source root for object files
			+ avoiding symlinks etc.
		+ obsolete and potentially already broken, remove it ?
		+ general agreement
AA:		+ add potential removal of two-layer LibO to plan (Bjoern)

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