[Libreoffice] [REVIEW] text orientation, not text direction

Jan Holesovsky kendy at suse.cz
Mon Oct 31 08:48:00 PDT 2011

Hi Lior,

Thank you for the patch!  It seems that it caused some misunderstanding,
so maybe it might be good to CC: the UX guys for the suggestion of
wording? - CC'd now.

UX guys - please have a look at Lior's suggestion; for a screenshot of
what he means, see his original mail in the ML archive:




How does that sound?

Thank you,

On 2011-10-31 at 17:03 +0200, Lior Kaplan wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Christian Lohmaier <lohmaier
> +libreoffice at googlemail.com> wrote:
>         Hi Lior, *,
>         On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Lior Kaplan
>         <kaplanlior at gmail.com> wrote:
>         >
>         > In my RTL bugs talk during the conference, I showed a weird
>         option in the
>         > tables options -> text flow tab which refers to RTL text as
>         vertical
>         > (guessing a feature for Japanese). See attached screen shot.
>         >
>         > I'm attaching to patches to fix this:
>         > 1. A string change (trivial).
>         But that change doesn't improve anything at all. I immediately
>         understand what the difference between "left-to-right" and
>         "right-to-left (vertical)" means, but what the heck is
>         "horizontal"?
>         that could also be right-to-left, and more importantly:
>         Vertical could
>         also be left-to-right written vertically.
> These options doesn't touch the text directionality (RTL/LTR) but only
> decide whether it goes horizontally or vertically. 
>         So I don't see any benefit in changing those. (on the
>         contrary, it
>         would replace clear labels with "need to try them to figure
>         out what
>         they do" ones.
>         As for "Text direction" vs "Text orientation" - I don't really
>         care,
>         although I'd associate left-aligned vs right-aligned more with
>         orientation, and the overall writing layout with direction,
>         but then
>         again I'm not a native speaker...
> I've changed this text for two reason:
> 1. To diffrenciate from the "Text direction" on the table tab (the
> previous tab in the same window). There the options are RTL and LTR
> which is right.
> 2. To use the same terminology as other word processing software.
> I hope this better explains the reasons for the patch.
> Kaplan
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