[Libreoffice-ux-advise] [PATCH] fix bug 51231, but...

Stefan Knorr heinzlesspam at gmail.com
Wed Aug 1 16:34:42 PDT 2012

Hi there,

On 29 July 2012 13:20, Ivan Timofeev <timofeev.i.s at gmail.com> wrote:
> But (don't cast stones at me) could we revert this feature?

No casting stones at you (I won't, at least). I agree with you.

Kendy's analysis was/is obviously correct in that there's a problem with
the little black overlay and the time at which it appears.
Finding a solution to the problem isn't all that easy either, I'll
explain below. I discussed this with Kendy at the hackfest, and while we
reached a conclusion there, I later went back to it and found that it
wasted lots of space.

As a makeshift fix, would it be possible to make the overlay appear
half/a quarter of a second later?

So, you read until here, possible solutions that we could explore:

#1 Have the overlay appear permanently on the currently active slide
PRO: touch-friendly, not too flashy, expectable
CON: interactions will be much slower, because you have to click every
slide before being able to use it.

#2 Let the overlay overlay the next (or previous) slide:
PRO: overlay appears completely outside of the mouse pointer's area
CON: technically not feasible due to the "stacking" of the slides
(according to Kendy)

#3 Move the slide number below the slide and display the slide title
again, then have the overlay appear off the slide (but in the title area
below it) [mockup attached: left – current; right – proposal]:
PRO: it's off the main clicking area (still somewhat in the way but fine
for most)
CON: the area would have to be made much larger, it wastes much more
vertical space (even at the same thumbnail size)

#4 Add a toolbar to either the top or the bottom of the slid sorter:
PRO: not flashy, very conventional
CON: would make the interaction a bit indirect, and worse: since the
slide sorter and the slide sidebar share their code: it would look
terrible in the sorter (three icons on a whole screen's width looks

Of all those, I slightly favour #1, but really not by much. Hope that
helps in any way.


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