minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Aug 2 09:52:16 PDT 2012

* Present:
	+ Norbert, Stephan, Rainer, Michael, Bjoern, Kohei, Caolan,
	  Christian, Kendy, Petr, Cedric, Michael S, Astron

* Completed Action Items
	+ quest for kind volunteer to update the website (Michael)
		+ thanks to Marc !
	+ another review for splash-screens (Michael)
	+ 4.0 wiki page section split (Kendy)
	+ check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (PEtr)

* Pending Action Items
	+ [pending] notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
	  statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)
		+ reviews done
	+ make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
	+ maildrop for Gerrit (Bjoern)
		+ 3/4 done, in progress idly.
	+ 4.0 issues (Everyone)
		+ everyone interested in cleanups - claim your work until next ESC!
			+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
	+ crediting: can we separate templates / artwork in the credits page (Spaetz?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.6.0 RC4
		+ annoying bug: comments lots during .xls / .xlsx export
			+ not good, but probably not a blocker
		+ autocorrection & dictionaries internal / user-installation
		  extensions not had their versions bumped => not
		  working (Stephan)
		+ actively registered / lightproof uno extensions also
		  have some update issues - have a fix as well (Stephan)
			+ grammar-checker impairment
		+ workaround - manually remove bundled extensions directory
			+ locating it on windows is a pain.
		+ registering bundled extn's
			+ slowest bit is help registration
			- hence version check.
		+ decision: ship it now
			+ release note it carefully
	+ 3.6.1 RC1 is due in 2 weeks
		+ all above issues fixed
	+ 3.5.6 RC1 status
		+ built except for Win32, start up-loading later today
		+ RC2 deadline is on Monday - tripple review for -3-5-6
	+ Automatic update / suggesions policy
		+ we can choose which versions update to what versions (Kendy)
		+ perfectly possibly to recommend 3.5.0 -> 3.6.0 but
		  avoid 3.5.1+ -> 3.6.0
		+ no user configuration for enthusiasm for updates ? (Norbert)
			+ only enable / disable
		+ re-visit update to 3.6.1 from 3.5.0
	+ perennial updating / first-start user-experience issues
		+ re-thinking the complicated optimisations here
		  sounds like a good plan.

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ ongoing work - pencils down / evaluations by August 20th

* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)
	+ thanks to those who assigned themselves some tasks
	+ should we start now or post-re-basing ?
		+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
	+ can we do the less incompatible changes first (Bjoern)
	+ deadline - of next week for volunteers for tasks
	+ proposal - call next version 4.0, pending wider input.
	+ whole point of 4.0 - if incompatible (Michael S)
		+ will keep people on last 3.x release for longer
		  so need to support it for longer
		+ always true even if we do 3.7 (Norbert)
		+ concerns wrt. longer term support of re-based code
		+ if we retain good back-compat / bridging much
		  less of an issue (Michael)
	+ start working, and testing breakage (Stephan)
		+ start doing it & see if it works or breaks
	+ unclear proposal / need an updated release plan (Bjoern)
	+ wide-spread code changed blocked anyway on re-basing (Lubos)
		+ discussion ongoing with 3.6.x fixing
	+ could we have a re-based 4.0 with no ABI break (Stephan)
		+ announce intention to break things (Bjoern)
	+ potential to incremental numbering eg. 4 -> 5 -> 6 for
	  next releases (Stephan)
	+ extend deadline until next week for task selection in wiki
		+ please take ownership of tasks
		+ and/or consider what can be done without
		  breaking binary compatibility.

* UI / design update (Astron)
	+ ongoing vacations for Mirek
	+ CTL discussion still under consideration

* Call for Papers for talks @ LibreOffice conference
	+ if your name includes non-ascii characters you can't register:
	  Andreas in the process of fixing this.
	+ http://conference.libreoffice.org/call-for-paper
		+ please submit talks ASAP ...

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ producing a bibsect repository for Windows (Norbert)
	+ new bug report page - with search for duplicates thanks to Tollef

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
    + 12 (of 55) older 11/48 8/42 10/37 11/35 5/26 5/21 3/19 4/15 8/13
         22%            23%   19%  27%   31%   19%  24%  16%  27%  62%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
    + 77 open (of 253) older 73/250 72/249 67/244 70/243 73/241 72/238 68/231
         30%                   29%   29%    27%    29%    30%    30%    29%
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 180(-1) bugs open of 720(+10) total
    + Started to double-count more classes of regression, to split
      them out more easily: Crashes, Borders, Migration
        + temporarily distorts graphs
        + encourages fixing of these bugs

    * ~Component   count net *
    + Writer       - 69 (-1)
    + Spreadsheet  - 20 (+3)
    + Presentation - 20 (+0)
    + Crashes      - 19 (+3)
    + LibreOffice  - 16 (+1)
    + Database     - 10 (-2)
    + Drawing      - 11 (+0)
    + Borders      - 9  (+0)
    + Migration    - 7  (+2)
    + Writer / RTF - 7  (+0)
    + Basic        - 2  (+0)

    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
    + Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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