minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at suse.com
Mon Aug 13 01:47:08 PDT 2012

On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 12:53 -0700, bfo wrote:
> If I may propose anything, please add:
> - zero tolerance policy for regression issues during development
> - zero tolerance policy for crash issues during development

	So - incidentally; we already have something like this in place. If you
can find a regression or crasher running a master build **that is not in
the last stable release** - you are encouraged to mail the developers
list with it. ie. we want to find out about regressions ASAP while the
work in a given area is going on. Of course - that makes it necessary to
run a master build - please do :-)

> I was seriously amazed after reading Most annoying bugs section
> of Release notes for 3.6.

	Right; the near-zero-tolerance change here is intended to encourage
developers / QA / bug-reporters to rebel against the all-too-common
"just delete your profile" -> "it works" -> WORKSFORME resolution cycle
that we see.

	And yes - time based releases means that (while we slipped a week to
try to fix it), 3.6.0 is really not as good as we wanted; that is
certainly true. On the other hand giving all developers the idea that
testing / bug fixing can be endlessly deferred since we'll never release
- is a really poor plan too; one aspect of that is that it's not fair on
the people that work diligently to test and fix things so we can release
at a given time.



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