minutes of ESC call ...

[Michael Meeks]

* Present:
	+ Lionel, Norbert, Andras, David, Christian, Michael, Eike,
	  Kendy, Stephan, Bjoern, Caolan, Markus, Rainer, Petr,
	  Thorsten

* Completed Action Items
	+ finding a better way for JRE warning disable in 3.5.1 if possible (Stephan)
	+ find eager volunteer to prettify / chronologically arrange /
	  thumbnail / cleanup the wiki page (Michael)
	  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2012
	+ remind Michael wrt. the bug for gerrit access (Bjoern) [ fdo#46132 ]
AA:		+ respond in the bug with some rational
	+ need to add some blurb fdo#44498 to release note (Petr)
	+ disable bundling of C++ stdlib in 3.5.1 & see how it goes (Petr)
		+ subsequently re-enabled as a split / extra package
		+ ideally move it to a sub-directory

* Pending Action Items
	+ [no progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
	+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
            + needs fd.o admin help, bug for that created, Tollef on vacation
            + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45354
	+ adopt the new bug state / meanings proposal without the mass changes (Rainer)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.5.1 release bits
		+ RC1 tagging issues, l10n, then stdlibs
		+ then old Mac/libxml2 (Stephan)
			+ libcroco etc. built vs. system libxml
			+ could we end up with two libxml's linked ?
			+ last tinderbuild does use both libs (Norbert)
		+ should switch Mac externals to use the internal libxml2
			+ checking other libs: libxmlsec ok, libcroco etc.
			+ patch for libcroco is extant,
			+ RC1 with Norbert's patch ?
		+ working on the issue (Stephan, Norbert, Petr)
			+ start builds tomorrow / tag around noon.
		+ slip 3.5.1 by several days
			+ expect release monday
AA:		+ accelerate external movement of Linux build hardware (Kendy)
	+ 3.4.6
		+ two weeks from now: March 5th RC1 deadline
		+ potentially delayed by 1-2 days

* Drop universal build for 3.6 ? (Kendy)
	+ 5% of our install-base taking big chunks of install pain
	+ difference in package splits between SUSE/Fedora/Debian etc.
	+ extremely broken supporting extremely old distros (Kendy)
	+ Fedora - support ~2 releases behind, year+a bit
	+ openSUSE - something similar, 11.3 is latest supported
	+ some testing merit for older systems (Bjoern)
	+ Debian Stable - can be much older than SUSE/Fedora perspective
		+ 'backports' service, if users want that
		+ Rene up-loading latest version there already.
	+ Oracle had moved to RHEL5 as their baseline before shutdown.
	+ new build hardware required for updating baseline ?
	+ Proposal: for 3.6
		+ continue to do generic builds
		+ pull base-line up to oldest Fedora/SUSE etc.
		+ continue to use internal libs

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ we have two weeks (until March 9th) to apply as an org.
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
	+ things you want to hack on too.

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ regressions - meaning of
		+ if it was not working in OO.o - not a 'regression'
		+ if functionality got substantially worse: it's a regression.
		+ but if new feature partially implemented, not one.
		+ if very annoying, add to most annoying, and fret not wrt.
		  the regression tag (Kendy)

	+ status new / unconfirmed / etc. (again)
		+ problem of querying assigned vs. devel in CC - hard.
		+ can query for 'bug state not changed in <N> days' (Bjoern)
		+ everyone needs to be able to query bugs to fix
		  is it an issue for developers ? - apparently not.

	+ 3.5 installation problems on Windows
		+ tried several installs on old XP machines,
		  failed with 100% CPU load
		+ integration of existing user profile problems
AA:		+ more research & individual bugs pulled out (?)
		+ eg. fdo#46074 - missing recent documents list (Cloph)

* ESC composition
	+ ESC formally voted in by the (now formally existing) Foundation board
AA:	+ please send Michael nominations for new ESC members for proposal
	  & vote next week (All)

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 49 (of 140) open, last weeks: 44/132, 41/124, 32/104, 28/93, 21/76, 23/71
	        35%                      33%,    33%,    30%,    30%,   28%,   32%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
		+ 103(+7) bugs open of 343(+13) total
	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 43 (+4)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 10 (+3)
	+ Drawing      - 10 (+0)
	+ LibreOffice  - 10 (+0)
	+ Presentation - 9  (+1)
	+ Database     - 5  (+0)
	+ Basic        - 3  (-2)

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