[Libreoffice] minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Jan 5 09:43:23 PST 2012

* Present:
	+ Norbert, Michael, Andras, Stephan, Tor, David,
	  Rainer, Caolan, Michael S, Petr, Kendy, Thorsten,
	  Kohei, Eike, Christian, Bjoern

* Completed Action Items
	+ upgrade the internal cairo to latest stable to fix theme crasher (Fridrich)
		+ side-effect: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44219
			+ in-progress (Caolan, Michael)
	+ setup linux build system to build gtk3 support by default (Michael)
		+ blocks on upgrading internal glib
	+ come up with a list of QA heros (Rainer)
		+ punted - until we get bugzilla stats update.
	+ get Rainer setup with git commit access (Michael)
		+ not required
	+ forward access details to Thorsten (Rainer)
		+ have Silverstripe access

* Pending Action Items
	+ add postgresql to 3.5 feature page (Lionel)
	+ add tinderbox name to build-id (Norbert)
	+ make it clear the SAL_INFO etc. macros are internal only for 3.5 (Stephan)
	+ [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
	+ cleanup old test build server directories (Thorsten)
	+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
	+ get a permanant re-direction link for bug assistent (Thorsten)
		+ hack up the Help->File bug menu item (Thorsten)
	+ checking pg baseline on windows (Fridrich)

* Action Items review

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.4.5 status
		+ rc2 up-loaded, for a week of testing before announce
        + schedule is updated: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
		+ switch from exact dates to use week numbers, to allow some
	          flexibility and better describe reality.
		+ 3.4.6 added for March
	+ 3.5.0 status
	        + Hard English string & UI freeze is on Monday, January 9, 2012,
		  see http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.5#3.5.0_release
			+ Markus' external ref / feature
				+ approved for merging consensus for -3-5 branch
				+ includes the last(?) string changes.
		+ plenty more bugs to fix - eg. from bug hunt.

* FOSDEM dev-room planning & arm twisting etc. (Michael)
	+ Talks:
		+ Internal structure of calc - Eike ...
		+ <slot to be filled in> - Stephan
		+ <easy hacks talk> - Michael
	+ Bjoern (Skiiing) & Caolan figuring out travel planning

* Doxygen update ... (Bergmann)
	+ we now depend on doxygen for SDK released builds
	+ much rejoicing (Thorsten)
	+ looking at switching to doxygen for IDL too
	+ default to with doxygen, fail if don't find one & disable it.

* License discussion / planning / MPLv2 etc. (Michael)
	+ https://mpl.mozilla.org/
	+ punt movement here until 3.5.0 is out.

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ Windows 8 - public beta for Feburary
		+ Win 8 doesn't install in VMWare
			- until it does debugging is hard.
		+ crash-on-load bug #43648 - fun.
		+ Jesus reports it working well though ...
	+ Excel (originally Lotus) leap-year bug #44453
		+ we simply don't do the broken version
		+ known issue, affecting only 50 dates.
AA:		+ wontfix the bug in pleasant way (Thorsten)
	+ bugzilla
		+ getting slower, gateway timeouts, error 504
		+ highly annoying
AA:		+ talk to freedesktop sysadmin team (Michael)
	+ switch of old bugs to NEEDINFO
		+ generated tons of mostly useless mail
		+ another few hundred obsolete bugs getting activity
		+ included invite to bug hunting session (Bjoern)
		+ qa list was not on Nabble - now fixed (Bjoern)
AA:		+ qa list incomplete, or updating slowly on gmane (Thorsten to poke Florian)
	+ bug hunting session update
		+ lots more activity than normal days
		+ did we manage to attract and retain new people ?
	+ feeling is good
		+ using 3.4.5rc and 3.5beta2 - normal work is possible
		+ 3.5 still has some real blockers, but Rainer not
		  seeing them in daily work.
		+ very few crashes observed in the wild

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
		+ grab bugs they like the look of there.

* Mitch / MSI building update
	+ not present.

* Robust subsequenttests to a third category: tail_build tests (Michael/Stephan)
	+ idea - to include the reliable unit tests that
	  we can run within the build
		+ can run them in the tail_build
AA:	+ include them into tail_build Makefile as 'slowcheck's (Markus ?)

* Norbert's cleanups impacting obsolete platforms
	+ looking into other Linux flavours

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