[Libreoffice] [Libreoffice-qa] 3.5.0 QA ... from BHS 1 to BHS 2
oolst at nouenoff.nl
Tue Jan 24 14:10:46 PST 2012
Pedro wrote (10-01-12 18:57)
> Michael Meeks-2 wrote
>>> OTH more releases means more features but also more bugs. And because new
>>> bugs occur, old bugs are left behind.
>> Oh ! so - this is an argument for doing a build every decade ;-)
> Not really. It's just an argument that if releases are too close, developers
> will only have time to fix blockers :)
> So not so critical bugs tend to accumulate. This could mean that it will
> loose quality as it goes along if it there are no major obstacles ;)
This has been part of our discussion in Paris.
See #4 on slide 23, and slide 27 explaining that point.
That discussion (of course) carried no final conclusion - but the
'agreement' (consent with Petr that it is a good idea) that the
developers try to remember/summarise their experience with this, so that
that can be part of an evaluation.
The idea/hope is, that faster/smarter fixing of bugs, leads to a shift
in the time spending: less weeks on bug fixing and more on features.
However, there is inevitably a strong tangling with the QA work.
And - despite my optimistic nature and the many hours spent on both QA
and getting that process at a higher level/notice - I have some serious
concerns on how secure our over all process is in this regard.
This results in bugs that should have been handled/getting floated much
earlier. Fix may be easy / ready in master / needed, but do not find
their way to the bug fix releases.
- 45068 Update from 3.4.4 on Win not possible without ...
initial bug 2011-04-29 3.4.0 beta3,
workaround published 2012-01-22
- 41054 Saving problem ods with new sheets
initial report 2011-09-20
fixed for 3.5 2012-01-10
fixed for 3.4 still pending
- 39118 Charts do not update
initial report 2011-07-10
fixed for master/3.5 2011-12-13
fixed for 3.4.6 2012-01-16
(pls don't ask me to provide more examples)
Because I know some people are quite sensitive for the impression of
being accused personally: this is not the case. I do not accuse someone.
I just show where our process, our mutual activity, falls short.
Maybe our process at the moment is even better then 6 months ago (good
change). Still, it's not good enough.
This is caused by the amount if bugs filed and the lack of time to
handle those properly. So important issues do not always get the
attention they deserve. It is not that bugs are not important enough, so
that people ignore spending enough time on them.
Another reason: lack of triage / bundling of issues, which is both
important for developers (fixing) ans users (simple how-to's for work
(Will do some kick off on that point later).
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