[Libreoffice] minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Jan 26 09:30:06 PST 2012
+ Kendy, Norbert, Stephan, Thorsten, Mitch, Fridrich,
Andras, Markus, Petr, Caolan, David, Kohei, Eike,
* Completed Actions
+ hack up the Help->File bug menu item (Ivan)
+ reviewed & will be in 3.5.1
+ poke website + marketing guys wrt. 3.5 (Michael)
+ no apparent response
* Pending Action Items
+ [slow progress] extract 64bit build hardware from firewall (Kendy / Admins)
+ rename VCL API to make it GetBeamerFoo & fix (Michael)
+ review slowcheck patch for tail_build's Makefile (Bjoern)
* Action Items review
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.5.0 status
+ RC2 builds being up-loaded, for announce ~tomorrow
+ deadline for RC3 is Monday ...
+ commits to libreoffice-3-5-0 - needs +2 approvals
+ PLEASE BE CAREFUL :-) +
+ libreoffice-3-5-0 turns into our ~final release.
+ no real blockers.
+ still plenty of annoying bugs
+ need to release-note lots of them.
+ but fixing rate is going well - thanks a lot !
* Indian localisation issuse / patch (Caolan)
+ happy with the patches, Windows specific issue
+ need another review for -3-5-0
+ no underlying bug lurking here.
AA: + re-test under Windows and push to -3-5-0 (Andras)
* poor decision to publish tons of interfaces (Thorsten)
+ publishing doesn't change much in practise (Stephan)
+ if it's easy to unpublish it - do it (Caolan)
+ for 4.0 we radically un-publish everything anyway
+ see who screams, and re-publish bits.
+ 'published' just used for documentation
AA: + do the easiest roll-back possible to cleanup the
canvas publishing issue in 3.5.0 (Thorsten)
* QA update (Rainer)
+ 64bit Windows build / installer
+ oddness in the 3.4.4 uninstaller, potentially
needs an update to 3.4.5 before 3.5.0 install
+ most annoying bugs
+ lots of nominations, without a dep. entry
+ should people first discuss in comments and
then add ? or add it with a first comment of
the bug# ?
+ just add it (Rainer, Lionel, Petr)
+ the complete history is under the _history_ link
AA: + update docs / first comment for 3.6 tracker (Petr)
+ tried to find his favorite regressions, that make
many people suffer
+ v. difficult, learned to live with them
+ mailing list, grumbling but no help
+ collecting a list of major regressions here:
+ not many here; find more ...
+ suspicion is that base has a lot
+ link to all regressions:
* ODF 1.2 standards compatibility snafu
+ TC discussion ongoing, no clear-cut view
+ guess that things stay as present (Thorsten)
* unit test framework issues (Markus)
+ we are missing an important feature
+ cppunit development appears dead/stalled for 2+ yrs
+ but we support system-cppunit
+ can we not just declare ourselves the new up-stream
for cppunit (Lionel)
+ requiring an internal cppunit not a big deal ? (Norbert)
+ always internal one for dbgutil anyway (Markus)
+ three options: (Stephan)
1. always use internal / patched version
2. there is a cppunit2 in Launchpad
+ is it compatible ? or even more active ?
3. re-evaluate whether we need cppunit, or something
else: google stuff eg. 'testing framework'
+ looked into cppunit2 (Markus)
+ stopped development at same time ~2009
+ project dead too.
+ prefer our own version, or switch to new framework
for integration tests (Markus)
AA: + create new cppunit repository at freedesktop (Michael)
AA: + import existing cppunit repo into it (Markus (with Kendy))
AA: + talk to Debian guys wrt. packaging etc. (Markus)
* update on final removal of Env.*.Set pending (Norbert)
+ intention to remove the set_soenv.in perl script generation
+ generate something can be included in a makefile rather than
sourced from a shell.
+ last few days, got all the way to this point:
+ built Linux, MinGW, MacOS & Windows
+ user perspective, simplified re-building sub-modules
+ easier 'make' commandlines
+ ways to run common scripts with the environment
+ general cheers & approval.
* 'build', 'bootstrap' repository outcome (Michael Stahl)
+ we're not using it anymore for 3.5 (Petr)
+ RH, and Debian moving / migrating away.
AA: + branch libreoffice-3-5 or sim., and wipe master with a helpful link (Michael S)
* volunteers & tasks for mentoring Polish students (Michael)
+ Fridrich and Lionel eager to mentor people.
AA: + get back to them with contacts (Michael)
* Certification - validating companies as L3 (Michael)
+ generally very happy (Norbert)
+ a membership requirement should not be required
+ somewhat subjective (Caolan)
+ potential guidelines for 'L3 developer':
+ only deal with individuals
+ two developers in a company
+ bugzilla, wiki, IRC
+ good developer history
+ at least one easy hack each
+ at least one more substantial bug
fix on each component:
+ writer, calc, impress, base
+ maintained activity over time to keep certification
+ trustedby other developers
+ one git commit account
+ capacity to fix bugs is what we're looking for (Lionel)
+ those are for L1, L2 support
* encouraging exotic filters update (Fridrich)
+ lots of progress on formats & great work from Valek
* mailing list [LibreOffice] header issue
+ out of time / next week ...
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 28 (of 93) open, last weeks: 21/76, 23/71
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