minutes of ESC call ...

Fri Jun 29 01:56:32 PDT 2012

* Present:
	+ Eike, Astron, Markus, Rainer, Michael, Kendy, Bjoern,
	  Michael Stahl, Caolan, David, Cedric, Andras, Petr,
	  Lionel

* Completed Action Items
	+ icons: poke Mango authors (Michael)
	+ revert 3.6 to opaque background on Win7 (Kendy)

* Pending Action Items
	+ [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly ones (Michael S)
		+ new problems shown up with this -
		+ Caolan has tool for templates to strip lang tags so it works
			+ try template lang tag stripping tool
		+ need to fix & merge for Beta3
	+ check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (Thorsten)
	+ notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
	  statement of what is required for gerrit written (Bjoern)

* Ongoing Action Items:
	+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/ - click 'register' (All hackers)
	+ then poke Norbert by E-mail to get yourself setup a commiter / reviewer
		+ the E-mail used for openID registration and user-account
		  on is needed (cf. core/.git/config)

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ mid term evaluations arriving soon
		- start thinking about what to put
	+ face-to-face mentor meeting in Berlin
		+ submit a private GSOC mentors' BoF @ conference

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ 3.5.5 status - RC2
		+ currently being pushed to mirrors; on-track
		+ not aware of any blockers => final.
		+ 3.5.6 planned for September: 2 months away - a lot ?
		+ do another in August between 3.6.0 and 3.6.1 ?
AI:			+ add to schedule (Petr)
	+ 3.6 / Beta 3
		+ deadline Monday for final string / late-feature freeze
		+ Beta 3 issue: template blocking - Michael S kindly took it.
		+ last beta before 3x release candidates
			+ commit bug fixes without review, until RC1
			+ then one extra review from RC1

* UI / design update (Astron)
	+ splash screen + start-center
		+ have a google+ vote on which one is best shortly.
		+ get it included over the weekend
		+ official TDF artwork handed around in a tar-ball
AA:		+ mail the winning image to Thorsten (Astron)
	+ Win7 glass foo reverted by popular request
	+ templates as above
	+ killing options:
		+ nice research in:
			+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Whiteboards/KillOptions
		+ would like CJK always-on, and with less UI
			+ but: three font-selectos in the paragraph
			  style dialog, not ideal.
		+ (Caolan) 'C' locale is a 'no idea what people want' locale
			the categories are the same as MS Office.
			add an easy one-click button to see these ?

* CXX0X-ABI incompatibility can of worms (Bjoern)
	+ gcc 4.7 - cxx0x extension is binary incompatible
		+ incompatible stdlib symbols that bust
		+ http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2012-06/msg00201.html
		+ luck that it worked until now: it was compatible.
AA:		+ should disable in our builds by default (Bjoern)
	+ not easy to detect; crashers like:
		+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51342
		+ show up randomly.
	+ lots of cascading dependencies of different ABI's ...
	+ serious long-run problem for building vs. system packages
		+ potentially accelerates our move away from a single
		  image that runs on every linux if disros pick up
		  the new ver.

* new cppunit release (Markus)
	+ all our patches up-streamed into the new cppunit version
		+ have a VisualStudio project file to build on win32
		+ misc. sourceforge bug tracker bugs fixed.
		+ build-system issues nailed
		+ auto_ptr warning spew killed
	+ master updated to latest cppunit
AA:	+ look into misc. build issues on master (Michael)

* re-basing update (Michael)
	+ 15k of 45k files complete - ~30%
	+ 47 of ~150 directories complete
	+ will incorporate migrate of idlc -> uccp
	+ discuss other migrations as/when/next

* gerrit update (Bjoern)
	+ still getting a couple of mails if you push:
		"something to review" and "it's already in"
		+ goes away when gerrit owns the repo.
	+ multiple efforts to update the helper scripts
AA:		+ work on unifying spaetz + David's tools (Bjoern)
	+ please review mst's patches for the -3-5 branch (mst)
		+ only those in the reviewer field get mailed
		+ not got a fire-hose to the ML yet

* un-merged patches in bugzilla (Bjoern)
	+ Bjoern worked on a few, many are already merged => just close them.
	+ query of doom for the recent batch:
	  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug%20creation]&chfield=alias&chfield=assigned_to&chfield=cclist_accessible&chfield=component&chfield=deadline&chfield=everconfirmed&chfield=rep_platform&chfield=op_sys&chfield=priority&chfield=product&chfield=qa_contact&chfield=reporter_accessible&chfield=resolution&chfield=bug_severity&chfield=bug_status&chfield=short_desc&chfield=target_milestone&chfield=bug_file_loc&chfield=version&chfield=votes&chfield=status_whiteboard&query_format=advanced&chfieldfrom=2012-05-10&list_id=88624&field0-0-0=attachments.ispatch&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=1&product=LibreOffice

* QA update (Rainer)
	+ new build feed ?
	+ last Windows / master build from June 14th
		+ need to fix the problems.
AA:		+ look into fixing the master build (Fridrich)
	+ contracting bugzilla improvements (blocking on SPI)
AA:		+ poke again for a deadline (Michael)
	+ bugsubmission assistant hero of the year: Rob Snelders
		+ thanks for fixing the bugs.

* 4.0 - when is it ? (Kendy)
	+ suggestion that 3.7 be 4.0 - no wild disagreement
	+ discuss it next time / at the conference in Berlin ?

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 73 open (of 241) older 72/238 68/231 67/229 67/226 62/219 60/213 67/211
	     30%                   30%    29%    29%    30%    28%    28%    32%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 5 open (of 26) older 5/21 3/19 4/15 8/13
	     19%                24%  16%  27%  62%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 177(-2) bugs open of 643(+12) total

	* ~Component   count net *
	+ Writer       - 65 (-1)
	+ Presentation - 23 (+5)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 20 (-3)
	+ LibreOffice  - 15 (-1)
	+ Crashes      - 16 (+1)
	+ Borders      - 12 (+1)
	+ Drawing      - 11 (-1)
	+ Writer / RTF - 7  (-1)
	+ Database     - 7  (+1)
	+ Basic        - 3  (+1)
	+ Migration    - 4  (+0)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
	+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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