minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Sep 13 11:18:33 PDT 2012
* Present:
+ Fridrich, Lionel, Stephan, Norbert, Andras, Kendy,
Michael M, Kohei, Cedric, David, Joel, Astron, Cloph
* Completed Action Items
+ enable evolution connector in distro-config for Linux (Lionel)
+ change pre-selection of default dictionaries to install (Stephan)
+ massive help indexing acceleration already in 3.6.2
+ due for 3.6.3
+ enable debug bits for Mac tinderbox (Norbert)
+ debug information enabled & live: --with-symbols
+ work-out a nice size limit for bundled fonts (Kendy)
+ [punt it] in favour of new font download solution
Lubos working on it - struggling with caches.
+ conference papers committee assistance (Norbert)
* Pending Action Items
+ [pending] make bytemark windows box do release builds (Fridrich)
+ crediting: can we separate templates in the credits page (Spaetz)
+ gerrit - patch abandonment can only be done by owner or gerrit admin (Bjoern)
+ gerrit - update docs in wiki (Bjoern)
+ Petr to decide release-schedule / overlap gap issue
+ change to contract and OSL_TRACE for oob results in OUString::copy (Michael)
* Release Engineering update (Fridrich)
+ 3.6.2 rc1 status
+ in pre-release, populating mirrors.
+ 3.5.7 rc1 - September 17th (next Monday)
+ Fridrich doing releng while Petr on vacation
+ likes most patches integrated by Friday for slower hardware
* conference program update (Norbert/Cedric/Fridrich)
+ conference looking good, lots of interesting papers
+ papers will be availble on line
* Joel introduction / welcome
+ joined a couple of months ago
+ mostly doing trigaing
+ some coding fixes
* emotive plea for more easy-hacks (Andras)
+ lots of students / volunteers chewing through the easy hacks
+ need more Easy Hacks particularly tasks:
+ that can take a few weeks for new hackers.
+ not trivial cleanup (only useful to learn review process)
+ more substantial / interesting: three week bits.
+ new volunteers: could they learn by triaging.
* UI / design update (Astron)
+ gradient-fill for cells:
+ review: better for whole areas rather than cells
+ interoperability issues ?
+ borders query:
+ we have to pick sensible default options / settings
+ Android icon underway with Alex's help
+ work ongoing improving icon themes too
+ options reduction ongoing interest
AI: + new git repository needed for UI stuff 'original-artwork' (Norbert)
* QA update (Joel)
+ immature interaction styles in bugzilla
+ encourage people to interact positively
+ don't just ask to reproduce on latest
ver. unless v. old
+ more complication wrt. when to 'close' bugs ...
+ only developers should close it resolved->fixed
+ unless QA can resolve exactly when.
+ use resolved->worksforme instead.
+ do we close a bug when it's fixed on master or all branches ?
+ some things get fixed but related to separate bugs
+ the bug-bot adds helpful comments when it's cherry-picked
+ prefer fixed when fixed on master (Kendy)
+ tracker bug dependencies different (Lionel)
+ crossed out only when it's fixed in that branch
+ problem remembering coming back to close it later (Norbert)
+ is it ok to close worksforme if it works on master ?
+ if not so serious for back-porting, ok (Lionel)
+ worth having the latest stable branch in parallel
not worth going back further for worksforme
+ what proportion are 'worksforme' ? (Kendy)
+ rougly:
+ 50% => needinfo
+ 25% workforme
+ 25% => developers
+ some annoying bugs with calc (Rainer)
+ really helps to have actual documents etc. (Kohei)
+ eg. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54498
+ many are duplicates: moggi addressing the core issue
on an overheating laptop.
+ begging for more triage volunteers:
+ once we catch-up all is good; but we're so far behind.
+ catch-up 10x bugs per week but a 1300 backlog
+ 20-30 new per day.
+ lots of user-appreciation.
** + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage **
+ need help confirming some 2011 bugs:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=128200&chfieldto=2011-12-31&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&product=LibreOffice
+ hard to triage / complex bugs.
+ should we have a(nother) bug-hunting party (Fridrich?)
+ HardHacks:
AI: + get some more (Joel)
+ need constant re-filling to five open (Stephan)
ID OS Component - Summary
--------------------------------------------------------------------
32948 Linux Libreoffice/Database(?) - Address Book Data Source
Wizard fails with message "No SDBC driver was found"
+ bug-log mixes several different issues, very unclear
+ one of them fixed / enabled this connector by default
+ agreed no longer a hard-hack
34548 All Presentation - EDITING: CRASH in action after Undo
+ prototype hack-around from Michael M awaiting feedback
+ the problem looks hideous.
33302 Mac Libreoffice - FILEOPEN/EDITING RTL text: parentheses and
brackets "(...) [...]" inverted to ")...( ]...["
with some fonts
+ Mac volunteers appreciated.
--- new suggested hard-hack ---
51023 All Drag-and-drop slide always moves slide to first position,
leading to data corruption and sometimes CRASH
* 4.0 - ongoing discussion (Kendy)
+ propose call the next ver 4.0, but leave the detailed
discussion until the conference.
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/LibreOffice4
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 44 (of 127) older 39/119 27/96 26/91 21/80 11/58 12/55 11/48 8/42 10/37
35% 33% 28% 29% 26% 19% 22% 23% 19% 27%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 80 open (of 270) older 81/269 73/258 73/257 76/256 75/253 77/253 73/250
30% 30% 26% 28% 30% 30% 30% 29%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 166(-6) bugs open of 788(+7) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 69 (-3)
+ Presentation - 18 (+0)
+ Crashes - 16 (-2)
+ LibreOffice - 14 (+0)
+ Database - 14 (-2)
+ Drawing - 12 (+0)
+ Migration - 11 (+0)
+ Borders - 11 (+0)
+ Spreadsheet - 10 (+@)
+ Writer / RTF - 3 (-1)
+ Basic - 3 (+0)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489
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