Minutes of ESC call, January 31, 2012
Petr Mladek
pmladek at suse.cz
Fri Feb 1 05:18:43 PST 2013
* Present:
+ Andras, Kohei, Markus, Cedric, Joel, Stefan, Eilidh, Astron, Eike, Petr
+ many people were missing, so only few action items were updated
* Completed Action Items
+ decision on whether to switch back to old floppy save (Astron)
+ done for 4.0.0.3
+ FOSDEM: misc. new interop. feature and their development
Markus will write to Italo to add Eilidh's talk (Markus)
+ come up with / improve the existing concrete funding request
for build hardware => board budget (Thorsten)
* Pending Action Items
+ completing generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
+ find person who can write and add off-line help for
impress-remote (Thorsten)
+ get tshirts / hoodies printed (kendy)
+ create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
+ Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
+ Update gsoc ideas page before FOSDEM
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
+ everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
+ not much activity so far; FOSDEM might bring more ideas
+ Investigate native build/env scripts for SDK (Bjoern)
+ regression catching on tinderbox
Figure out time-out issues (Markus)
+ Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Michael M)
+ STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the
VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich)
+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
+ pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page
(Michael M)
+ investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Thorsten)
+ on-line help for impress-remote would be useful, help appreciated
+ add off-line help and it'll appear on-line when kendy
fixes server load issues.
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
+ tweak the configure defaults (Kendy)
+ no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
+ Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)
+ MySQL connector - can/will/where to ship it (Thorsten)
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0 timeline:
+ RC3 tagged, builds in progress
+ was a bit painful; thanks everyone for the hard work,
especially Stefan, Eike, and Norbert for working on the last
minute blockers
+ still within the schedule
+ final release following week if no blocker
+ next: 4.0.1.1 commit deadline on Feb 18, 2013
+ 3.6.5
+ out; went well
+ next: 3.6.6.1 commit deadline on March 18, 2013
* UX input (Astron)
+ 4.0/4.x branding
+ the selected branding was not widely accepted
+ new pool started, see http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/4-0-Branding-poll-td4032751.html
+ no visible winner right now
+ branding based on the new pool should be ready on February 19 =>
it might be used in 4.0.1.1 build
* Features - please check/update:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.0
+ missing Mac / full-screen bits (Tor)
* 4.0 pending tasks
+ MySQL connector compat issues
+ binfilter:
+ warn on legacy file-types with helpful dialog (no owner)
+ it is late for 4.0 because of string and UI freeze
+ drop Mozilla mess in the tree:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56902
+ lots of cleanup in configure
+ Unix / LDAP addressbook support disappeared:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57417
+ close that wontfix & release-note it ?
+ template managers improvements (Cedric)
+ there are still issues that need handling
+ nothing serious
+ string and bigger UI changes should wait for 4.1 (Petr)
+ small UI changes might be acceptable for 4.0.1 if
they fix annoying issues (Petr)
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
+ will get updated next week after QA meeting (Joel)
+ developers are still more focused on 4.0 regressions and critical bugs (Petr)
* QA update (Joel)
+ new members this week, very active in triagging, list goes down
+ updated queries show that more bugs need review
+ there are fruits from teaching users; new bug reports have
better quality because people accept feedback and hints from
their older reports; they are listening
+ 4.0 looks good
+ help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457
+ samba bugs:
+ there are some Samba-related bugs
+ is Samba completely broken in 4.0?
+ Joel is going to investigate and escalate if necessary
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 13 (of 79) older 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21 4/18
22% 22% 14% 22% 27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29% 22%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 45 (of 175) older 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153 31/152
25% 25% 24% 22% 23% 21% 22% 21% 20%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 47 (of 264) older 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279 65/279
18% 18% 18% 18% 19% 20% 22% 23% 23%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 45 (of 126) older 42/117 40/114 43/110
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 243(+3) bugs open of 1188(+20) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 89 (+2)
+ Presentation - 25 (+2)
+ Spreadsheet - 22 (-3)
+ Database - 19 (+0)
+ LibreOffice - 18 (+3)
+ Crashes - 15 (+0)
+ Drawing - 14 (-1)
+ Borders - 11 (+0)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 2 (+0)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
Best Regards,
Petr
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